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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 8thWonder
I'm glad somebody responded and didn't just say "search" or start cursing the guy out. Blonde actually used his BRAIN and gave this guy some input as to the real differences in EVOs. A good response, Blonde!

he got pissy with me like a little girl because I was telling him he is wrong, blonde only further eloquated my point. Thanks blonde
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Good explanation

Originally Posted by blonde
ok, i will do my best to help you out. when a new model comes out, it normally comes in 1 of 2 ways. the company can either do small improvment to the existing model or they can release a brand new model which normally includes a new chassis, new engine (or revised engine), new interior etc..

normally, when a car is released, iit will have about 3 revisions (small evolutions if you may) before it will be changed completly for a new chassis. for example, in 2002 mitsubishi released the EVO 7 which was a brand new chassis (ct9a) and was pretty much a brand new car except for teh 4g63 which was the same except for a few simple revisions. now, in the next few years, mitsu released the evo 8 and evo 9 which are not a brand new car but an improved EVO 7 (evolution of the existing model). both the evo 8 and the 9 share the same interior, chassis, engine, brake etc.. with the 7. however, each new model improved just enough over the old model to warrent its buy and make it better than before (it is not evolution if it is not better than before). Now, after about 3 revisions of the CT9a, mitsu will release the EVO X in 2007 which will be a brand new car (as you can already see) and will share very few items with the old EVOS.

Now, you talked about the E36 and E46 in terms of the EVO 8 AND EVO 9. well, you are comparing apples to oranges because the E36 to E46 was a chassis change (a brand new car) and not a revision. a better comparison would be EVO 8 ---> EVO9 = 2001 BMW E46 M3 -----> 2003 BMW E46 M3 SMG. it is the same car but has small revisions (new tranny, new interior options, new water pump etc...). if you want to compare evos to the e36 to e46 bmws, the right evos would be EVO 6 (cp9a) = EVO 8 (ct9a) which were different cars.

in conclusion,

iif you own an EVO 8 and are thinking about the 9, don't expect a brand new car but you can expect some small changes that might make it wortth while to upgrade.

(sorry about the long winded post, i got a bit carried away but hoped that it helped)
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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New car smell too!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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blonde, another great explanation
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 10:39 AM
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I personal think its a waste of money to lose all the equity in your evo 8 (if you have any)
to upgrade to a 9 for $5,000 or $6,000 more for a slight performance difference and and different bumper and cheap looking fiber dash, all this is easy to upgrade. Im going to have my car paid off,then sell it ,keep about $3,000 to upgrade my stock 320hp evo x. If you went VIII TO IX you wasted money!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEvolution8
yes i do own an 03evo and im not up 2 date on the evo 9 passed by the dealer 2day so i stoped by 2 c. visualy i dont c a difference and i think its a waist. thats why i wanted u to get the POINT of what im tryin 2 say difference wize when i mentioned e36 n a e46. i wonna c a difference in body n they **** betta be faster n betta handle better. when a new model comes out I want it imporved in everythin. it seems 2 me this one has what the evo8 has. thats why im asking u guys is there anythin i missed besides that lame mivec i seriously dont think it makes A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
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This is not a text message, you have a KEYBOARD in front of you. Type proper English before my brain explodes!

To stay on topic, it doesn't really matter what we think or results have shown in other threads, if YOU don't think the IX is a big difference, then keep on keeping on. You happen to be wrong, but if you are content with that, then so are we!
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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the reason i get a evo is just because it cost more than the STI with the ssl package....
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Great mature post. Thanks for taking the time out to post that blonde.

Originally Posted by blonde
ok, i will do my best to help you out. when a new model comes out, it normally comes in 1 of 2 ways. the company can either do small improvments to the existing model or they can release a brand new model which normally includes a new chassis, new engine (or revised engine), new interior etc..

normally, when a car is released, it will have about 3 revisions (small evolutions if you may) before it will be change completly for a new chassis. most companies will also release new editions for the existing models to keep things fresh. for example, for the evo8, mitsu released the MR edition which is the same car as the GSR but it includes a few extras like better suspension, 6 spd tranny, special color etc.. Now, to get a better understanding of how these revisions and evolutions work, we can look at the CT9A chassis for the EVO. In 2002 mitsubishi released the EVO 7 which was a brand new chassis (ct9a) and was pretty much a brand new car except for teh 4g63 which was the same except for a few simple revisions. now, in the next few years, mitsu released the evo 8 and evo 9 which are not a brand new car but an improved EVO 7 (evolution of the existing model). both the evo 8 and the 9 share the same interior, chassis, engine, brake etc.. with the 7. however, each new model improved just enough over the old model to warrent its buy and make it better than before (it is not evolution if it is not better than before). Now, after about 3 revisions of the CT9a, mitsu will release the EVO X in 2007 which will be a brand new car (as you can already see) and will share very few items with the old EVOS. So far mitsu has followed the 3 revisions rule but sometimes a company will be forced to make less revisions before going to a new chassis. for example, EVO 1,2 AND 3 were one model because they shared the same chassis. EVO 4, 5 and 6 were all based on the CP9A chassis and EVO 7,8 AND 9 are also one model which is the CT9A chassis.

Now, you talked about the E36 and E46 in terms of the EVO 8 AND EVO 9. well, you are comparing apples to oranges because the E36 to E46 was a chassis change (a brand new car) and not a revision. a better comparison would be EVO 8 ---> EVO9 = 2001 BMW E46 M3 -----> 2003 BMW E46 M3 SMG. it is the same car but has small revisions (new tranny, new interior options, new water pump etc...). if you want to compare evos to the e36 to e46 bmws, the right evos would be EVO 6 (cp9a) ---> EVO 8 (ct9a) which were different cars.

in conclusion,

if you own an EVO 8 and are thinking about the 9, don't expect a brand new car but you can expect some small changes that might make it worth while to upgrade.

(sorry about the long winded post, i got a bit carried away but hoped that it helped)
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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maybe i should make a post like that in evo general so people can understand the way companies work and how it affects us as customers.
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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well I stoped by AMS 2day, I did ask them about the new MIVEC and whats it all about. Looks like the guy is telling me dont waist ur money on the 9. And he thinks the mivec will interupt with tuning but it is able 2 be taken out. Personaly he says that there was no gain 10hp or so they claimed between the 8 n the 9 which isnt nothing. but he does say that the mivec is a lil friendlier at lower RPM.
thanks for ur replies guys
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Hey NERMIN, you really need to read some of the dyno graphs out there with the IX.

http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?op...een#msg6598675

Go there and look at that, I think you need to do a little more research and searching before you start posting crap like this.

And in the context you're using it, it's "waste" not waist.
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RedEvolution8
Sorry guys if its a repost or has been asked before, Well I saw the evo 9 today I mean i didnt look under the hood n all, but eye wize the only difference i c is the seats n the front bumber, different wheels nothing special, what about engine wize HP and all that is there any difference? thanks in advance
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Read this thread if you want to know about power differences or potential:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=165455

All other differences are noted here by Mitsu:
http://media.mitsubishicars.com/deta...60523&mime=ASC
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