What harnesses can be setup for rear seatbelt anchors & unclipped for daily driving?
Dec 29, 2005, 10:15 PM
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What harnesses can be setup for rear seatbelt anchors & unclipped for daily driving?
I'm looking for all 4pt harness setups that can be setup by bolting the shoulder harnesses to the rear seatbelt anchors or clipped into the rear seatbelt female ends. I'm also wanting the 2 rear pts to connect to 1 solid point, which clips into another point and then V's into the front seat.
I know Scroth Rallye 4's are a perfect example of what I want... but I can't find any for cheap (at the price I want)... sooo, I was wondering if there's any other brands that make this same configuration... or where I could buy some Schroth harnesses for cheap?
BTW, yes, I am fully aware of the dangers that come with driving with harnesses at that angle.
I know Scroth Rallye 4's are a perfect example of what I want... but I can't find any for cheap (at the price I want)... sooo, I was wondering if there's any other brands that make this same configuration... or where I could buy some Schroth harnesses for cheap?
BTW, yes, I am fully aware of the dangers that come with driving with harnesses at that angle.
Dec 29, 2005, 11:01 PM
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http://www.sparcousa.com/pharness_tuning.asp?id=374
I had a set of these in my old Honda, they worked pretty nicely. The only thing I don't like about 4/3 point harnesses is that when you tighten yourself in, the lapbelt part rides up...a 5 point would keep that from happening. Also, with these, there is no "slack"...when it 's tight. it's tight. Not like the factory belts that have some play so you can move around a bit. The Scroth belts have this feature though
I had a set of these in my old Honda, they worked pretty nicely. The only thing I don't like about 4/3 point harnesses is that when you tighten yourself in, the lapbelt part rides up...a 5 point would keep that from happening. Also, with these, there is no "slack"...when it 's tight. it's tight. Not like the factory belts that have some play so you can move around a bit. The Scroth belts have this feature though
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That Sparco harness is a 3pt, not a 4pt... but yea, you get the idea I'm trying to give.
Yes, it can be very dangers in a roll-over event using harnesses and blah blah blah. Like I said, I'm fully aware of the dangers.
Yes, it can be very dangers in a roll-over event using harnesses and blah blah blah. Like I said, I'm fully aware of the dangers.
Dec 30, 2005, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by joeymia
i think i saw someone mention that having a harness setup like that may be dangerous if your invovled in a roll over. Is this correct?
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
What they are talking about is the "submarine" effect. a 4 point seatbelt will hold you in your seat, but if you hit something strait on, or a rollover, you could actually come out underneath the belt, or it will stop on your chest (half-submarine) and crush your internals, ie lacerated liver. I have the sparco 4 point. a 5 point which will go from the belt over the family Jewels, and prevent that type of incident from happening. so a 5 pt. is safer than a 4 pt.
Dec 30, 2005, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikey52
Except then when you roll over and the roof collapses, your body cant crumple downwards and it crushes your neck. With a rollbar, a 5-point is more safe.
everyone knows the dangers of not having a rollbar/cage. For the complete amatuer that does it once or twice a year though, it doesn't make sense to put a bar in, plain and simple.
With a stock seatbelt, you'd be all OVER the place.
Dec 30, 2005, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by aresix6
http://www.sparcousa.com/pharness_tuning.asp?id=374
I had a set of these in my old Honda, they worked pretty nicely. The only thing I don't like about 4/3 point harnesses is that when you tighten yourself in, the lapbelt part rides up...a 5 point would keep that from happening. Also, with these, there is no "slack"...when it 's tight. it's tight. Not like the factory belts that have some play so you can move around a bit. The Scroth belts have this feature though
I had a set of these in my old Honda, they worked pretty nicely. The only thing I don't like about 4/3 point harnesses is that when you tighten yourself in, the lapbelt part rides up...a 5 point would keep that from happening. Also, with these, there is no "slack"...when it 's tight. it's tight. Not like the factory belts that have some play so you can move around a bit. The Scroth belts have this feature though
Dec 30, 2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
I'm looking for all 4pt harness setups that can be setup by bolting the shoulder harnesses to the rear seatbelt anchors or clipped into the rear seatbelt female ends. I'm also wanting the 2 rear pts to connect to 1 solid point, which clips into another point and then V's into the front seat.
I know Scroth Rallye 4's are a perfect example of what I want... but I can't find any for cheap (at the price I want)... sooo, I was wondering if there's any other brands that make this same configuration... or where I could buy some Schroth harnesses for cheap?
BTW, yes, I am fully aware of the dangers that come with driving with harnesses at that angle.
I know Scroth Rallye 4's are a perfect example of what I want... but I can't find any for cheap (at the price I want)... sooo, I was wondering if there's any other brands that make this same configuration... or where I could buy some Schroth harnesses for cheap?
BTW, yes, I am fully aware of the dangers that come with driving with harnesses at that angle.
Dec 30, 2005, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
What they are talking about is the "submarine" effect. a 4 point seatbelt will hold you in your seat, but if you hit something strait on, or a rollover, you could actually come out underneath the belt, or it will stop on your chest (half-submarine) and crush your internals, ie lacerated liver. I have the sparco 4 point. a 5 point which will go from the belt over the family Jewels, and prevent that type of incident from happening. so a 5 pt. is safer than a 4 pt.
http://www.soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html
http://www.schrothracing.com/docs/SchrothASMII.wmv <- video right click save as...
I think what the original poster is looking for is the scroth "quick fit" harnesses, however, there does not seem to be an application for the mitsubishi. But I am willing to bet that the subaru kit would fit just fine, I am assuming that all Japanese built cars use the same basic OEM seatbelt design.
I guess you could get in touch with Roadraceengineering.com to see if they have tried to get one of those quick fit harnesses work in an EVO.
Last edited by chrisw; Dec 30, 2005 at 12:02 PM.
Dec 30, 2005, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisw
you should read this link
http://www.soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html
I think what the original poster is looking for is the scroth "quick fit" harnesses, however, there does not seem to be an application for the mitsubishi. But I am willing to bet that the subaru kit would fit just fine, I am assuming that all Japanese built cars use the same basic OEM seatbelt design.
I guess you could get in touch with Roadraceengineering.com to see if they have tried to get one of those quick fit harnesses work in an EVO.
http://www.soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html
I think what the original poster is looking for is the scroth "quick fit" harnesses, however, there does not seem to be an application for the mitsubishi. But I am willing to bet that the subaru kit would fit just fine, I am assuming that all Japanese built cars use the same basic OEM seatbelt design.
I guess you could get in touch with Roadraceengineering.com to see if they have tried to get one of those quick fit harnesses work in an EVO.
to get it through ours, you have to do a 10 second disassembly of the little plastic tightener piece. Not hard at all, but a good reason why they wouldn't have an application for us.
