JDM Evo IX rear bumper concerns
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
well it only helps in a 5-10mph crash, if its faster than that it wont be any different whether you do or dont have a crash beam
Plus if you insurance company finds out you removed it, your hosed.
Originally Posted by Alacris
The JDM IX bumper is much shorter. Because of that, the stock support beam will not fit and needs to be removed. My understanding is that it absorbs much of the impact sub 15 mph. Anything over that, and it's useless.
However, without it, a love-tap can crack the bumper and need full replacement, rather than some touch-up paint and buffing.
There's a rumor that a JDM crash bar exists, but nobody seems to be able to source it. In any event it wouldn't be as beefy as the US version (we have very stringent safety and insurance regulations in this country), but it's better than nothing. Right now, I'm of the mind that if I can find the JDM crash bar (or a replacment), I'll go with that bumper.
Information on this has been spotty at best and contradictory at worst (just search on JDM IX bumper and read all the results).
So I'm just doing my homework now. Once the check comes in, I will want to get moving ASAP (JDM or USDM replacement . . .)
However, without it, a love-tap can crack the bumper and need full replacement, rather than some touch-up paint and buffing.
There's a rumor that a JDM crash bar exists, but nobody seems to be able to source it. In any event it wouldn't be as beefy as the US version (we have very stringent safety and insurance regulations in this country), but it's better than nothing. Right now, I'm of the mind that if I can find the JDM crash bar (or a replacment), I'll go with that bumper.
Information on this has been spotty at best and contradictory at worst (just search on JDM IX bumper and read all the results).
So I'm just doing my homework now. Once the check comes in, I will want to get moving ASAP (JDM or USDM replacement . . .)
the link in my sig sends you to a thread that was started by the owner, pm him for details
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Talk to Cory at Atlantic Motorsports www.amstuning.com They have installed several of them and could tell you anything you need to know.
Without the U.S. standard crash bar I could see an insurance company choose not to give you the money to fix your car and if or someone hits you it could do some damage to the frame and now your screwed. 
Originally Posted by luscious
It helps tremendously in the sub 20mph impacts...the difference between just replacing your crashbar, bumper skin, & FMIC (which I had to do) or destroy your whole damn engine bay.
Plus if you insurance company finds out you removed it, your hosed.
Plus if you insurance company finds out you removed it, your hosed.
Originally Posted by AznX TL
wait a min....we are talking about the rear bumper, why would you destroy your whole engine and FMIC if you get rear-ended
I was even on the order list a while ago, but when i found out the beam had to be yanked, i cancelled my order. I track this car, and removing anything "safety" related for a cool bumper, is not even an option.
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Well, it's all moot.
I've decided to just get a direct replacement. I like the JDM bumper and all, but it's not a show car for me, and one of the reasons I got an evo instead of a 2 seater was practicality for family. No kids yet, but once they arrive (and I am NOT selling the Evo then
), safety will be first.
Thanks though for all the help. Maybe a future gen Evo will have the better looking bumpers and a low-profile crash beam.
ac
I've decided to just get a direct replacement. I like the JDM bumper and all, but it's not a show car for me, and one of the reasons I got an evo instead of a 2 seater was practicality for family. No kids yet, but once they arrive (and I am NOT selling the Evo then
), safety will be first.Thanks though for all the help. Maybe a future gen Evo will have the better looking bumpers and a low-profile crash beam.
ac
Originally Posted by AznX TL
well it only helps in a 5-10mph crash, if its faster than that it wont be any different whether you do or dont have a crash beam
Of course the crash bar helps in accidents above 5-10 mph! It is always better to have more metal between the object and you. The crash bar is the first part of the crumple zone designed into the Evo. If you get rid of it then the FMIC, radiator, and engine will have to absorb most of the impact from a front end collision instead of the frame. This is not something you want since that is not what they are designed to do.
Originally Posted by el producto
People have to stop thinking the crash bar only works at 5-10mph crashes.
Originally Posted by f-dub
Do you have any type of source to back up this statement? That is a pretty dangerous statement to go spewing around the boards.
Of course the crash bar helps in accidents above 5-10 mph! It is always better to have more metal between the object and you. The crash bar is the first part of the crumple zone designed into the Evo. If you get rid of it then the FMIC, radiator, and engine will have to absorb most of the impact from a front end collision instead of the frame. This is not something you want since that is not what they are designed to do.
Of course the crash bar helps in accidents above 5-10 mph! It is always better to have more metal between the object and you. The crash bar is the first part of the crumple zone designed into the Evo. If you get rid of it then the FMIC, radiator, and engine will have to absorb most of the impact from a front end collision instead of the frame. This is not something you want since that is not what they are designed to do.
Originally Posted by AznX TL
yeah, a vendor stated it, i forget what thread it was in
Give me a break.