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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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hell id proly have an rs if i didnt get a good deal on the gsr
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Yea if your a young adult paying for your own car and can deal with no radio til you find one it is no problem. As far as the roll windows and no power locks yea it sucks but it is worth it to drive the car for its performance. I would of got a MR if I had a good paying full time job.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheelhaus
I agree, some of these posts are a little big-headed and skewed. The RS vs the GSR vs the MR, they are by NO means at oposite extremes of one another. Not any ONE of them is far ahead of the others in any way.

The RS is bare bones performance. You get only the most important features for go-fast fun, and it lacks many common amenities. Power windows and locks are hardly a luxury item nowadays. The MR is just as much performance, but has some higher quality and slightly better performing parts, such as struts, wheels, 6sp tranny, lights, etc.

The MR is all about oerformance as well, it is NOT a soft riding luxury car, whoever said this is a nutbar. The damping may not be as harsh, but it can actually perform just the same (or sometimes better) on a road course than the RS. The Biletiens aren't a luxury item, they're very functional. It still shares the same aluminum panelling as the RS, the exact same drivetrain, etc. The 6sp tranny is great.

The GSR compiles elements of both sides. From one side to the other there is no REAL performance difference, just personality.

I chose the MR not because I wanted the most expensive, but because I wanted a car that blows me away every time I drive it. I wanted a car that was a good daily driver, but would be a complete menace on the track. I like the rarity, I like the concept behind the MR, and I love the 6sp tranny.

Each of them has a different personality, just don't bash the others because you think that yours is TEH BEST THING EVARS and the others are BS, they all bring something unique to the table.

Buddy... Do me a favor READ THE TITLE OF THIS POST... feel me?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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wow some of you guys are realistic but most of the posts are quite cocky. In reading the posts I would conclude those who are so cocky could not afford anything more then the rs and most comments are justification. The rs is certainly not the ultimate evo. Get a clue. You can have a brand new rs or a new fq400 uh give me the rs with no options. The rs is for those who plan to race the car period. As a daily driver it is a poor choice. Why? No radio, no abs (higher insurance premiums not as safe for 99% of us and even for some professional drivers... remember the viper used to have horrible stopping distances due to no abs. Of course nobody needs keyless entry and power windows but why live with out them. Well to each his own.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Madison
p.s. the RS will also have the worst resale value (as a fraction of its purchase price)...you'll far fewer interested buyers when you want to unload it.
Not true. If Honda made an Accord without power windows/locks/ABS, etc then that would likely be the case since Accords are not performance cars and their prospective buyers are not looking for a bare-bones, lightweight commuter car. The RS has a niche following of autocrossers, drag racers and track day addicts. It's also produced in very limited numbers. I'm not sure about the '06 IX, but in 2004 and 2005 I believe only a total of 800 were brought to the US (400 white & 400 red) IIRC. The RS models I OCCASIONALLY see on cars.com and autotrader.com go twice as fast as the GSR models. What people are getting for them, I dunno. But they don't seem to be having any trouble selling them.
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...In reading the posts I would conclude those who are so cocky could not afford anything more then the rs and most comments are justification...
While that may be the case for some, it's certainly not the case for all. I can only speak for myself, but at the time I bought my '05 RS there were '04 GSR models on the lot going for the same price. Any Evo is better than no Evo, but I made my mind up to get either the MR or RS because they were sorta like the limited run versions and I'm into that. For a while I was gonna do the MR...then I test drove the STi and thought the MR was a little overpriced in comparison...then I was promoted to a job where a hang glider on the trunk was frowned upon...then I worked out a deal with a Subaru dealer to swap a WRX trunk with an STi...then he backed out...then my wife said no Evo because it had no sideairbags...then I put my foot down and said the '05 Evo RS has reinforced aluminum door beams and no wing. The low sticker price was a bonus but it wasn't a deciding factor. It was more like a "nice to have" then a "need to have".

After 20k miles I'm still convinced I made the right decision. To say that the MR makes for a better daily driver than an RS is like saying gunshots don't hurt as bad as stab wounds. All Evos...RS, GSR, MR, GT or FQ...make for relatively poor daily drivers because of the high TRUE COST of ownership. New tires before 15k miles. New brakes before 20k miles. New clutch before 30k miles. Maybe more inbetween. We're all sacrificing something to own, what basically amounts to, a toy.

For me the radio thing was such a huge non-issue. I hadn't even put 100 miles on the car before I put in a sound system that will make anybody with a decent MP3 collection jealous. I have a 60GB hard drive under my passenger seat with over 6k MP3's. The hard drive is hard wired into an auxilory input on the deck. Unlike an iPod, nobody knows where it is. I can also upload new tracks from my home PC to the hard drive via a wireless router. Cool stuff.

Power windows? It would be nice I guess. Power locks? Maybe on just my door. Honestly there are really only two things that consistently bug me about this car. The damn windshield wipers only have 3 speed settings and I can barely hear myself talk even when I talk on my bluetooth. The first problem is specific to the RS. Oh well. The second problem is something all Evo owners with a TB exhaust deal with. When it becomes unbearable I'll buy a beater and retire the Evo to weekend warrior status. I'm having too much fun right now though!
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by saywhen
Well to each his own.
Exactly.

There is no right answer as to which Evo is the best, but which Evo is the best for you.

For me, the 2004 Evo RS is the best. I wouldn't trade it for ANY other production Evo regardless of price.

I could of bought any of the new Evo IXs, but didn't because ACD and ABS make the car do things I don't want it to.

Choice is a good thing. It is a shame that most of the choices with regards to either having or not having electronic driving aids on performance cars are disappearing.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gklasse
Choice is a good thing. It is a shame that most of the choices with regards to either having or not having electronic driving aids on performance cars are disappearing.

geo
So true. My buddy with a $200k Porsche 996 complains about the electronics on his car more than I complain about the manual locks on mine.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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I have read a few posts here saying the RS or other Evo's are not good daily drivers. Well I purchased the RS because I wanted that particular car. Cost had nothing to do with it. The only reason I considered an MR was the color but I really wanted the RS.
The RS is an awesome daily driver. It is way more comfortable than my last car, it rides great, it handles great, it is quieter, it doesn't draw attention, it doesn't kick the *** end out when boost hits in third gear, it has carpet, a stereo, a decent heater.
Tires last as long as the compound they are made of and the alignment settings you have. Clutches last as long as you let them. I'd be afraid of brake pads that lasted longer than 10,000 miles.
Oh, and the windows roll down faster than the power windows on most other cars I have been in lately.

You all must have been driving women's cars before you bought your evo if you think the RS is not a good daily driver.

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by F0rcedFed
IBetween the features it does not have, tid bits it does not have and things it does what would you discribe owning one to be like compared to a regular VIII or IX?
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Originally Posted by ashton13
Buddy... Do me a favor READ THE TITLE OF THIS POST... feel me?
I did. I'm trying to explain some of the pros and cons, LIKE HE ASKED. I was also considering the RS when I bought mine, and I think that is PERFECTLY ON TOPIC. Why don't you grow up and develop some maturity before you fly off like this, mmkay?

feel me?
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Impulsoren
I have read a few posts here saying the RS or other Evo's are not good daily drivers. Well I purchased the RS because I wanted that particular car. Cost had nothing to do with it. The only reason I considered an MR was the color but I really wanted the RS.
The RS is an awesome daily driver. It is way more comfortable than my last car, it rides great, it handles great, it is quieter, it doesn't draw attention, it doesn't kick the *** end out when boost hits in third gear, it has carpet, a stereo, a decent heater.
Tires last as long as the compound they are made of and the alignment settings you have. Clutches last as long as you let them. I'd be afraid of brake pads that lasted longer than 10,000 miles.
Oh, and the windows roll down faster than the power windows on most other cars I have been in lately.

You all must have been driving women's cars before you bought your evo if you think the RS is not a good daily driver.
Very good points, but you have to compare the "daily driver" aspect to what most people would consider one to be. I had to drive my gf's 05 WRX wagon for a month after my STi was stolen, and I grew to really like it. A good "daily driver" is one that has a very smooth ride, soaks up bumps as they go almost unnoticed, has a very quiet cabin, you know, more of a "luxury car" kinda ride. A regular WRX is a fantastic daily driver. Any of the Evos are definitely NOT that. You may love driving it everyday, but it doesn't fit the common definintion of a good "DD" car.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ashton13
First of all the RS has ac. Second you are a retard.
Well he does have a point. The differences in handling and speed are not going to be noticable to the naked eye between the rs and gsr. Obviously handling and acceleration are going to be different in the MR because of the 6 speed and the Bilsteins. When it comes to modding both you definitely won't see a difference on the street because every car is going to have it's own unique mods that will make it faster or slower than the rest. Honeslty everybody is entitled to there own opinion but if i'm gonna pay that much for a car i'm gonna have it all. Plus an evo isn't an evo unless it has the wing. That is the trademark that evo's have and that's why Subaru tried to copy it on the Sti. But to each there own!
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Turd Squirter
Not true. If Honda made an Accord without power windows/locks/ABS, etc then that would likely be the case since Accords are not performance cars and their prospective buyers are not looking for a bare-bones, lightweight commuter car. The RS has a niche following of autocrossers, drag racers and track day addicts. It's also produced in very limited numbers. I'm not sure about the '06 IX, but in 2004 and 2005 I believe only a total of 800 were brought to the US (400 white & 400 red) IIRC. The RS models I OCCASIONALLY see on cars.com and autotrader.com go twice as fast as the GSR models. What people are getting for them, I dunno. But they don't seem to be having any trouble selling them.

While that may be the case for some, it's certainly not the case for all. I can only speak for myself, but at the time I bought my '05 RS there were '04 GSR models on the lot going for the same price. Any Evo is better than no Evo, but I made my mind up to get either the MR or RS because they were sorta like the limited run versions and I'm into that. For a while I was gonna do the MR...then I test drove the STi and thought the MR was a little overpriced in comparison...then I was promoted to a job where a hang glider on the trunk was frowned upon...then I worked out a deal with a Subaru dealer to swap a WRX trunk with an STi...then he backed out...then my wife said no Evo because it had no sideairbags...then I put my foot down and said the '05 Evo RS has reinforced aluminum door beams and no wing. The low sticker price was a bonus but it wasn't a deciding factor. It was more like a "nice to have" then a "need to have".

After 20k miles I'm still convinced I made the right decision. To say that the MR makes for a better daily driver than an RS is like saying gunshots don't hurt as bad as stab wounds. All Evos...RS, GSR, MR, GT or FQ...make for relatively poor daily drivers because of the high TRUE COST of ownership. New tires before 15k miles. New brakes before 20k miles. New clutch before 30k miles. Maybe more inbetween. We're all sacrificing something to own, what basically amounts to, a toy.

For me the radio thing was such a huge non-issue. I hadn't even put 100 miles on the car before I put in a sound system that will make anybody with a decent MP3 collection jealous. I have a 60GB hard drive under my passenger seat with over 6k MP3's. The hard drive is hard wired into an auxilory input on the deck. Unlike an iPod, nobody knows where it is. I can also upload new tracks from my home PC to the hard drive via a wireless router. Cool stuff.

Power windows? It would be nice I guess. Power locks? Maybe on just my door. Honestly there are really only two things that consistently bug me about this car. The damn windshield wipers only have 3 speed settings and I can barely hear myself talk even when I talk on my bluetooth. The first problem is specific to the RS. Oh well. The second problem is something all Evo owners with a TB exhaust deal with. When it becomes unbearable I'll buy a beater and retire the Evo to weekend warrior status. I'm having too much fun right now though!
Damn I don't want to be an *** but what type of shatty corporate job do you work at that would from upon an Evolution wing?? Who gives a flying F^&* what you drive up in??? When I drove to work the first time with my 05 GSR w/ ssl I got soooo many compliments and everybody was talking about it. My boss who drives an 05 M3 gave me props and said he wants to trade cars for a day. If I roll up to work in a brand new 35k car and someone complains that the wing is too high then they can kiss my $%^. I'm sorry but the Evo is awell known car and if you don't know what one is then you can crawl out of the hillbilly closet you've been stuck in for the past 30 years.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:30 AM
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My .02c

RS
-Pro's= Raw, Loud, NO heavy sun roof, no wing

GSR
-Pro's= HID's. PWR window's, PWR door locks, ABS

I love that the RS are not as heavy, but I love being able to roll my passenger window's up and down during race's, I also hate how manual lock car's always get scratched up around the lock area... I know it seem's petty, but to each is own


My solution is buy a GSR and gut the trunk and all the sound deadening and remove the wing
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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well I have an 05 RS and I really like it, the stereo wasnt that big of a deal because I got one put in for 400 dollars. The only annoying thing is how my passengers always forget to lock the doors. ABS would have been nice but as long as you dont slam on the brakes and learn how to pump them it's fine.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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The rs package saves you 44 pounds over a gsr, doesn't seem like much.
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