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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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maybe you could of spent $3000 on a eagle talon or gsx eclipse and another $5000 and you could of gone 11 seconds.

of course, gsx isn't nearly sophisticated as Evo in it's suspension setup, but it'll go fast.

But i think what the guy was trying to say was if you could get a camero SS and drop $1200 in it and go 11 seconds or even low 10's, why drag race with an Evo.


it's just a personal favor. I wouldn't want to drag race with a V8, that wouldn't be as satisfying as beating a V8 in a V4.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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+1, it is shame to see people trying to make evo into a drag car instead of a road track monster.



Originally Posted by Jeffs2006EVOIX
You know its amazing to me to see how many people "Drag" race the EVO. I hear many times on the street from friends that drive EVO's how they lost to this person won to this person in little off the wall street contests...I keep telling my buddies, you know, you losing to that RX-7 or you losing to that Bimmer, and so on doesn't impress me at all. I keep trying to tell my friends that the EVO is not a drag car, I feel it is actually at a dissadvantage in a drag race, at least in the street sense. I continue to push that the EVO is a road course car, not a drag car. Now you may dissagree with me because some EVO's happen to be quite quick at the strip, but think abou it, the car was made for taking the turns, for road course's. I feel that Solo II where I want to play is going to be a more suitable place for the EVO than the drag strip. Not only will it be in its enviroment, but should be allot less stress on the car. For you guys that do race the Drags,like the guy racing the ZO6, I mean that is amazing, that impresses me because the Corvette is more suited for Drag racing than the EVO and for it to win, well, that is truly amanzing.....But beating a Corvette, a Viper, an M3 in a Solo II event to me, is just as sweet.........
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by forbidden color
I wouldn't want to drag race with a V8, that wouldn't be as satisfying as beating a V8 in a V4.
Yeah I just love my EVO's powerful V4!!!
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Who cares. Its fun to have a car that can do both. Personally I think it is a shame that people drag race PERIOD (no real skill involved). It is almost as brain dead of an activity as Nascar. However, this still doesn't change the fact that some people will decide to drag race, and race whatever car they choose. Sometimes it is not all about what other cheaper platforms already exist, its about inventing an all new platform.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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Just because someone goes to the strip doesn't mean they dragrace their car and some of us don't have much choice but to go to the strip. The dragstrip can be a tool just like a dyno and to alot of people it is fun to put a new part on and actually go and see what a differance it actually made not to mention its fun to alot of us just to go and try to better ourselves. You guys make it sound like anyone who takes there car to the dragstrip is opposed to turns or something and again for alot of us we don't have other options aside from the dragstrip being that tracks are limited heck even dragstrips are limited we don't even have a 1/4 near us.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Yeah I just love my EVO's powerful V4!!!
It's V-licious...
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolving-04
Just because someone goes to the strip doesn't mean they dragrace their car and some of us don't have much choice but to go to the strip. The dragstrip can be a tool just like a dyno and to alot of people it is fun to put a new part on and actually go and see what a differance it actually made not to mention its fun to alot of us just to go and try to better ourselves. You guys make it sound like anyone who takes there car to the dragstrip is opposed to turns or something and again for alot of us we don't have other options aside from the dragstrip being that tracks are limited heck even dragstrips are limited we don't even have a 1/4 near us.
I agree. Seeing how well your car accelerates through the quarter mile is a great way to benchmark your performance against others, and also seeing where you stand power wise (much cheaper than a dyno session!!!). I can't believe people are getting upset about evo's being drag cars. People bring there Escalades and Minivans to the track, why not an EVO? I take my cars to the track (to test out new parts and what not) but also autox. Just because a car is exceptional at taking turns has nothing to do at all with how well a car does at a dragstrip. A corvette Z06 is pretty good and taking turns, does this mean it doesn't make a good drag car? Road Racing events and autoX events are more rare, and more expensive to get into (not to mention that it also takes way more skill, and ***** for that matter, to pilot a car around a track than in a straight line) so drag racing is always naturally going to be more popular FOR ANY CAR, NOT JUST THE EVO. Of course you could take a first gen DSM (or F-body) and make it run 10s for less than half the cost of a brand new EVO (I've done it) however there is just something very very cool about having a fast car (that isn't a rust bucket) that can take turns as well as go fast in a straight line.

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffs2006EVOIX
You know its amazing to me to see how many people "Drag" race the EVO.
excellent I agree 100%

pah drag racing.. you'll be wanting cruise control next.

drive it around the corners like you stole it

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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
Personally I think it is a shame that people drag race PERIOD (no real skill involved). It is almost as brain dead of an activity as Nascar.
This is perhaps the most ignorant statement in this entire thread. Anyone who thinks there is no skill involved in drag racing is either deluded or exaggerating. If you are experienced at drag racing, then you know it's very difficult unless you have an automatic with a stall converter and huge slicks on the rears. It's actually quite difficult to properly launch an Evo and then nail the shifts properly all the way down the track, though. People think you just floor it and go, but that's nowhere near the truth. Look at the percentage of people who pull 1.6 60's in their Evo. It's incredibly low, because it's not easy.

Originally Posted by sonicnofadz
not to mention that it also takes way more skill, and ***** for that matter, to pilot a car around a track than in a straight line
This is perhaps the 2nd most ignorant statement in this entire thread. Way more skill to autocross? Way more *****? Haha, gimme a break. You don't even go over 60mph in an autox, and you're dodging cones. I love autocrossing, but it doesn't take anymore skill to do that than it does to drag race. I've been drag racing for 7-8 years with AWD turbos, and it certainly wasn't easy at the beginning. To the contrary, I started autocrossing last year, and in my very first even while on my stock suspension and stock Advans, I took 5th out of 85. No big deal - it was easy and took no ***** at all. It was slow as hell compared to drag racing and had no butterfly factor like lining up against a Z06 and beating him by .06 of a second. Road racing definitely takes more ***** and also requires skill, but how many people can realistically road RACE in their daily driven Evo? I love doing HPDEs and will be doing them all year this year, but that's still not even racing. It doesn't take much in the ***** department or skills department to do driver's education events. It is in no way feasible for the majority of Evo owners to actually go out and do wheel-to-wheel road racing. However, anyone can compete in drag racing.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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People who don't like drag racing just haven't figured how to launch yet.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
This is perhaps the most ignorant statement in this entire thread. Anyone who thinks there is no skill involved in drag racing is either deluded or exaggerating.
I am neither deluded or exaggerating. This is just my honest opinion (in which you have the right to fully disagree with!). I do occasionally go to the track, and I cannot say that I don't enjoy it. However, you have to really look and see what drag racing is. Accelerating through some gears in a straight line. What is autocross and road racing? Also acclerating in a straight line, AND THEN through a series of curves. Drag racing of course does take some sort of skill to be able to launch perfectly and not miss shifts, however I do not think it is a very hard skill to learn, especially with all wheel drive. While autocross may not take alot of "*****" to compete in, it is my belief that it certainly takes quite a bit more talent to be competitive in it. This of course cannot be proven or anything, it is all speculation in the end. You cannot really say which sport requires more skill, because there is absolutely no way to measure these things. There just really isn't anything exciting to me about driving in a straight line. It almost puts me to sleep to turn on the TV and find drag racing on espn or the speed channel.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Great write up. Nice!
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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ok here is a thought.

could or would an Evo be quicker down a drag strip if it was only 2WD ?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by andyjd
ok here is a thought.

could or would an Evo be quicker down a drag strip if it was only 2WD ?
Quicker? No, unless it had drag slicks.

Faster? yes, because the trap speeds would likely be higher due to a few hundred less pounds and more tirespin.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
People who don't like drag racing just haven't figured how to launch yet.

OH YES! It definitely takes a degree in mechanical engineering to figure out how to launch an EVO!
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