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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Yes the gearings are different between the VIII and the IX, not sure how much but they are different so that leads us to the important question....who won?
Ironically, I was able to get the spool up advantage (this shouldn't be so). We started from a 2nd gear roll at 20mph. Both of us took off and it took a bit to spool up, but my tq is definitely higher. What was ironic is that I'd pull about a car in 2nd alone.. then 3rd, he'd start to come up slightly, then when he'd switch.. he'd fall back slightly, then I'd switch to 4th and keep steady..then he'd start to inch forward again, but then stop.. at the end - I was ahead with his front bumper at my rear bumper.

We tried a few times and I could outspool him each time. He probably wasn't running as high of boost as I. Needless to say.. I was quite surprised to keep up with a 9 with those mods and no cams.


Which also leads to my next question: How much more whp would a 9 stock with just a reflash have over this 9 with no reflash but with his mods?

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Ironically, I was able to get the spool up advantage (this shouldn't be so). We started from a 2nd gear roll at 20mph. Both of us took off and it took a bit to spool up, but my tq is definitely higher. What was ironic is that I'd pull about a car in 2nd alone.. then 3rd, he'd start to come up slightly, then when he'd switch.. he'd fall back slightly, then I'd switch to 4th and keep steady..then he'd start to inch forward again, but then stop.. at the end - I was ahead with his front bumper at my rear bumper.

We tried a few times and I could outspool him each time. He probably wasn't running as high of boost as I. Needless to say.. I was quite surprised to keep up with a 9 with those mods and no cams.


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how much were you boosting compared to the IX?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Ironically, I was able to get the spool up advantage (this shouldn't be so). We started from a 2nd gear roll at 20mph. Both of us took off and it took a bit to spool up, but my tq is definitely higher. What was ironic is that I'd pull about a car in 2nd alone.. then 3rd, he'd start to come up slightly, then when he'd switch.. he'd fall back slightly, then I'd switch to 4th and keep steady..then he'd start to inch forward again, but then stop.. at the end - I was ahead with his front bumper at my rear bumper.

We tried a few times and I could outspool him each time. He probably wasn't running as high of boost as I. Needless to say.. I was quite surprised to keep up with a 9 with those mods and no cams.


Which also leads to my next question: How much more whp would a 9 stock with just a reflash have over this 9 with no reflash but with his mods?

-M
Damn, half a car off. Wait until he gets a custom tune. Your are going to get a beating.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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Damn, half a car off. Wait until he gets a custom tune. Your are going to get a beating.
Hehehe.. but of course! Thing is though.. he has cams.. I don't.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 4g63_24
how much were you boosting compared to the IX?
Not sure.. I was boosting 22psi bleeding back to 19-20psi.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
Hehehe.. but of course! Thing is though.. he has cams.. I don't.

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He has cams? Or do you mean you are getting cams?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
I'm very surprised that you guys consider this a drivers race. I would automatically give it to the 9 because of the MIVEC (tuned or not). My car doesn't have cams or cam gears.. it should get waxed with the 9's mods since my car with a reflash tuned for tbe was only 9whp higher than a stock 9.

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yes i would give it to the 9 if you were a sucky driver if both equal drivers its a drivers race, then again you do have what an 03 or 04? it might be a different story.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by j8
He has cams? Or do you mean you are getting cams?
MIVEC = EVo 8 w/cams.

He has MIVEC.. I have an Evo 8 with NO cams.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by donmeca2020
yes i would give it to the 9 if you were a sucky driver if both equal drivers its a drivers race, then again you do have what an 03 or 04? it might be a different story.
I really have an equivalent of an 05 since I have the 10.5 hotside (but wasn't tuned with it installed).

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTEZ
MIVEC = EVo 8 w/cams.

He has MIVEC.. I have an Evo 8 with NO cams.

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Never heard of this, are you saying his power is equivelent to an VIII with Cams because he has a IX? He's not tune and you are, Untuned MIVEC does not equal EVO 8 w/cams.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if your power was similiar to his, maybe 5WHP advantage for him, but it's not always the peak HP that wins a race, especially when your talking a minimal difference of 5WHP. After he get's tuned, then he should easily be making 275-285WHP on the same DD Dyno in which you got 244WHP.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by donmeca2020
id say you, due to the fact you have a reflash. if he had one with possibly some other mods i think it would be a different story.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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not trying to start a war but mivec is garbage, true it has been proven to put out good numbers but, i mean cmon i'll stick with a traditional 4g63. if i have a set of cams and a tune i will walk on a 9 with intake, exhaust just because he has mivec doesnt mean crap. so then outa curiousity who won this race? if i hear evo 9 im gonna slap somebody lmao
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
Never heard of this, are you saying his power is equivelent to an VIII with Cams because he has a IX? He's not tune and you are, Untuned MIVEC does not equal EVO 8 w/cams.
Untuned MIVEC == Untuned EVO 8 w/cams.

Basically if you tune a MIVEC then you have a tuned EVO 8 with cams.

The average Evo 9 stock is 233-235awhp on a DD. I got 244awhp with reflash and tbe. I'm sure a 9 with tbe, boost, and intake should be higher than 244awhp even if it's untuned.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
After he get's tuned, then he should easily be making 275-285WHP on the same DD Dyno in which you got 244WHP.
Correct. - then I would need cams to match that number.

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