Geeze... so much misinformation... The Megan IX turboback, as of now, has not been announced to be more expensive than the 03-04' systems. The IX should be available in April. That's a downpipe/resonated delete pipe/catback for WELL under $600 shipped. Yes, there were some fitment issues that had to be addressed (mainly 05's), and they have been. To put it in prospective, I've been running the original version of the system for over a year on my own Evo (catching air and all). I love it. I have no issues, and can't think of a better bang for the buck system out there.

On another note, The Buschur system would be my second choice. The reason I say second is that I do believe it is probably producing a little more power, and a few pounds lighter. I'm also not particularly pleased with the aesthetics either... David and I have agreed to disagree on this one . However, dollar per hp I'm not sure average Joe would really notice a $300 performance difference between the two. The Buschur name speaks for itself though... grade A hardware!

If you are buying based on the almighty dollar, I do believe these are the two you should be looking at though... and not just because I sale one of them. There are other dealers for the unit I sale (maybe not offering better service though )

 

Thank you Zeus.

The $300 price tag difference you also have to look at like this. We will supply our high flow cat in our same $825 price, which will easily cost $150 to buy from anywhere else. We also include the CEL fix with the systems. Just pointing this out.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

How is he arrogant? he didnt say mine is better, he said that there was no way a car with an exhaust alone will net 50whp gain? geez I guess this isn't america and you cant give your .2 cents anymore without being called arrogant while at the same time making a valid point?

plus he was getting his name out there as a supplier saying before you go get this come take a look at what I have to offer? again arrogant how? its called sales....If you cant talk about your products how will they ever sell?

 

usually, whenever mr. buschar speaks, i tend to shut up and listen and take notes. cuz everything he says is gold

 

buschur makes quality stuff. It's good.

not many system out there that could match the simplicity, good looks and performance as the buschur system, unless you custom make one.

works system looks good with their 02 housing.

megan is too loud, so are the logic performance exhaust. Too loud at idle, too loud driving, too loud stopped.

 

Buschur Racing TBE with cat-delete and Magnaflow is AWESOME! Quiet at idle and cruising speeds but it screams at WOT. Excellent customer service as well, they are my preferred vendor.

 

I would read his post noob, a quote from his post
"Let me make sure I have this straight. You are going to spend you hard earned money on the "cheapest" exhaust you can find for you $30,000 EVO? Hmmm, doesn't seem like a wise choice to me. Why not buy the exhaust that is going to get you the most performance for the money spent?

Our exhaust is 36 pounds LIGHTER than the stock system and will outperform any other system I have seen to date. The price is $825 shipped to your door, with a high flow cat or offroad pipe, includes an 02 simulator to keep your CEL off if you use the offroad pipe, etc., etc."
After the first paragraph ends, he immeidatly makes the point that getting a cheap exhaust is a wise point, and after that paragraph, he immeidaly mentions his exhaust after he says "Why not buy the exhaust that is going to get you the most performance for the money spent". This immeidaly dismisses the so called "cheap exahusts" as good exhaust and labels them as poor quality from the last sentence he made.
"I just don't want to see anyone spend $500-600 on an exhaust that gives less power and weighs as much as a stock system does. Doesn't make sense to me to build a car for more power and not get the most you can out of what you are buying.

Remember, some companies figure if you can't be the best, be the cheapest."
He right there makes a STATEMENT that his company is the best.
The point is, a quality of a good forum/board/ w/e is that it is unbiased and has no intrusion of vendors becasue they are bias. And don't tell me people don't have bias becasue no one can become unbias (and that can be supported by all Media Analyers). A good example of vendor intrusion is http://www.radarbusters.com/ (aka Radar Roy), he made a post about a year ago stating that this new radar dector (k40 calibe) as a horible performer in all radar test. Later that month k40 sued him for false testing and lible. Google k40 and radar roy and you'll fidn the law suit. Rodar roy purposely fixed the tests that were performed. A few months later speedzones.com got to test the k40 calibre (i have to mention this is probably this best in class built in radar dector in range and detection delay), and speedzones and speed measurment labs posted up the best results it ever had. Radar roy posted is fixed results on a forum board, and becasue he was a vendor hosting the forums, he was posting bias results to push his own products becasue he mentions that his website is selling rx65s that are "better as he said" and a k40 and he gives a link to buy the unit. Now I'm NOT SAYING bushur is fixing dynos and ****, it just that he will have an inherent bias and it would be a much better forum is less of his input was to be put towards other products and just answer questions about his products and display results of dyno comparisons and such. If he would like to push his products, i would recommend the vendor forums and for sale forums. His input is highly valued here on evom, but i would rather trust not listing to him than trying to decide if he has little or extreme bias. Radar roys bias casued many major deal****s offering k40 calibers as options to drop them. A lesson to be learned form this.

 

And one other thing, my comments are made with little bias, i have no EVO, i have no parts for megan, logic, or buschur. People that own companies products will inherenly have more bias due to a good or bad experience

 

I pieced together my turbo back and couldn't be happier with it. Slightly louder at idle, quiet as stock when cruising, and noticeable (but not droning) when in boost. I got mine all for $800.

 

same here piece my TBE together came up to about $830.

Another thing dont listen to vendors when it comes to reviews or something like this...yes the vendors do alot of good here and look out for us etc but the main goal for these ppl are to make money and sell products they can say whatever they want but at the end of the day they want that money.We know buschur makes good stuff,we all know the buschur exhaust can make good power, it may out perform some exhausts out there but not all. I would like to see a comparsion of every exhaust from every company vs. buschur since it seems to be the god of all exhaust systems out there.Alot of ppl on here from sponsered lackies to fans boys will tell you this product is better over this product etc... I will say what i always say...get whatever you want dont listen to anyone, do some research compare the products on your own and make your own decisions.

 

Good point as Megan only offers a resonated cat delete... and no problem... your products I have put my hands on have been great quality.

 

As for the "sound" some are speaking of, that is very relative, and I personally do like the sound of the Megan... esp with the HKS 272/272s straight up.

 

Here is a 20 page thread on how great our exhaust system is in the gb section. There is plenty of reviews on there to read and see the quality of our system.



https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...71#post2895371

 

You can easily get rid of the CEL with the Megan test pipe. I did.

 

Or just pick up 2 spark plug anti-foulers from any auto parts store.