i got a better idea, how about untill you list this info that you claim to have, shut ur mouth, cuz u know what, neone that truely had REAL and CREDIBLE soruces would gladly list them, thats why college professors ask for cite pages. They do that for a reason, to ensure the source is real and credible, you have no intention of doing so so you argument is COMPLETE VOID. End of discussion noob. And i mention megan?, have you read all my posts, i say logic, megan, and RNR, so i still have yet to see where i only say megan. And you SPAWN THE EXACT BIAS I'M TAKING ABOUT RIGHT IN YOUR LAST STATMENT. YOU SAY "I PERFER BUSCHUR" AND YOUR OTHER POSTS JUST TRASH THE SO CALLED CHEAP EXHAUST THAT BREAK. WELL, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU JUST COMPLETE PROVED MY SIDE RIGHT, THERE IS TOO MUCH BIAS GOING AROUND HERE WITH VENDOR INVOLVEMENT, BUSCHUR IS A GREAT COMPANY, THEY MAKE GREAT PRODUCTS, DAVE IS VERY KNOWLEAGEABLE, BUT A FLOOD OF INFLUENCE CAN ONLY SERVE TO ADD BIAS TO THE MEMBERS OF EVOM. PS-The info i'm requesting is this so called exhuast test that has all these exhausts we mentioned here, not the fact that medina warranties buschur cars they sell. Have you ever wonder why they warranty it, it's becasue it is in demand, they look at the potential risk of the MINIMAL mods their buschur package cars offer and factor that, and they know those people buying those pre-modded cars are prob going to do something more thus void any future warranty so they won't ever have to worry about it ever again, and if they don't mod any further, the small amount of mods will do no major harm, the most common problem of the evo are clutches, tc, diffs, and driveline, not stock or lighly modifyed engines, thus they have no fear of offering this package, it gets the name out there with buschurs while they make more revenue and make more sales. Business.

 

Trying to get back on topic-

Just how much of a differences is there between less expensive exhausts like RNR, Megan, and Logic Performance compared to Buschurs, is the weight difference huge. How much of a power gain could honestly be seen from switching from RNR, Megan, or Logic Performance to Buschur, 5WHP, 10WHP? I'm interested in saving a little money, but building the best EVO I can for the best bang for the buck. If the differences are minimal than I'd rather save a couple of hundred of dollars, but if there is a pretty considerable difference in performance than I'd pay for Buschur's TBE. I'll never pay $1,000+ for a TBE though, not worth it in my opinion unless you just love the look or sound of a particular TBE.

 

Also is this Megan TBE Exhaust for sure in April? Is it a pretty big fitment issue concerning 2005 EVO VIIIs and 2006 IXs for the exhaust components available now?

Edit*- Called Megan directly, catback and testpipe fit perfectly, the downpipe does not. EVO IX system will be available in a month or two as already stated early in this thread.

 

Yes many, many are beating down my door for the IX fitment... I may have some preproduction units available in a week or two... no badging, cheap price. The full production units should be here April.

 

BTW you'd probably have to have a pretty high hp Evo to see a 10whp difference between any aftermarket 3" catback and the Megan... and you might not even then.

 

You are correct. I also have a HKS intake, Helix HFC and a Works P2 flash. And let's not forget the 3 pod ricer gauge (That's good for 10whp right there.)

As for the stock readings, that is what Gruppe-S told me. I never had an actual baseline done there. However, I was told by Mike (the operator) that mine dyno'd high for the mods done.

My point for showing my graph is that just because I paid $550 for the exhaust doesn't mean I sacrificied power. In fact, if I had used the Test Pipe, I would have gotten more. However, I think the price you have of the TBE w/ a HFC included is an excellent deal. I would have paid the same amount if I had bought the HFC new.

 

Easy there....dont have a stroke over this, haha its way not worth it. Other than im just going to say that your right...Dave Buschur is arogant for talking about his exhaust, i mean thats how this started and blew waaaay out of context right?...My point was arguing he isnt arogant for trying to sell his parts and make claims that people on this forum can vouch for, thats all man really nothing more? I never attacked another vendors product??....haha I feel like litte kids on the bus fighting because one says my dads tougher than the other or something....You tell me dont make claims? but yet where is the info that shows those exhausts you mention make just as much hp? see this is going both ways and its ridiculous and as i said before I have looked at other companies and I just really prefer buschur, bias or not? I gave the others a chance by looking at them and reading about them, i didnt just jump to a conclusion? ....The "cheap" parts i was referring too was like ssauto, I had a bad deal with that stuff with another car before i knew it was crap....cracking, breaking, etc... so when i refer to cheap thats who i think of first which is bias So really im not trashing anyone here as you say I am, go to any board and there is tons of info saying that they are really "cheap" by my definition in my other post.....My whole point was never to continue arguing and at this point i dont feel like it anymore....I dont have time to search and post everything i have read, it took me forever to do that and frankly I dont want to again haha..If you really want to know about all the exhuasts out there then you need to take the time to read about them? I did as I said before.....so anyway sorry for pissing you off, and sorry this thread got wrecked, just got carried away on both sides, haha...i feel like im back in the honda-tech world (thats another story )

and I know Medina does it to make money, but until you go talk to them and see how cool those guys are there dont really put them down, any dealership could do that but they dont want to...atleast Medina understands that the bolt-ons wont kill a car? many dealerships say exhaust...warranty void....So yes I agree that they do it for business because thats a fact but they are also pretty cool guys that seem to understand the excitement behind an evo.....anyway keep up the great contribution to evom hope someday soon you can buy one of these awesome cars and experience what they have to offer!!

sincerly,
NOOB *sigh* someday i will be an evolving member

 

david i have immense amounts of respect for you in the evo and dsm world but i feel what you are saying here is sort of going against what you have shown recently. i know that you feel that nobody should cheap out on parts and i feel the same way. however, you say all of this yet sponsor someone who is very well known on these boards, expecially well known for getting the fastest car for the cheapest price. he actually ran one of those "cheap" exhausts on his car for quite a long time along with other "cheap" parts. they performed outstanding for him as you probably know. i just really think that you should think about things like this before you bash them when you sponsor a car that went the "cheap" routine.

 

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As some have said, create your own. Here is what I got

Invidia N1 cat back=$389
JIC 3 inch dp that fits perfectly on 05=$259
UR Hi-Flo Cat=$145
LPI resonated test pipe=$79
Taper removed at end of JIC dp and wide band O2 bung installed=$50
TOTAL=$843
Total of dp+Invidia only=$648
Total of dp+Invidia+cat=$793

My car sounds great at idle and is nice and quiet at cruising speeds. I highly recommend my system. Check out the video file in my signature