Injen Intake 20+ HP, is this for real?
Mar 27, 2006, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
The only way to get this much power out of an Injen Intake is if you combine it with an HKS SSQV and remain untuned.
I totally agree, that's what I did. I was torn between a china made turbo on ebay and a SSQV, but I decided the SSQV was the better choice.
Mar 28, 2006, 06:26 AM
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ok, ok. So is there any proof/dyno numbers/timeslips, that an intake with cone filter like the Injen will yield better results (with a tune) versus the stock intake system (with a tune) given the same or similar A/F ratio?
I'm not skeptical, but just curious?
I'm not skeptical, but just curious?
Mar 28, 2006, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by S-1
ok, ok. So is there any proof/dyno numbers/timeslips, that an intake with cone filter like the Injen will yield better results (with a tune) versus the stock intake system (with a tune) given the same or similar A/F ratio?
I'm not skeptical, but just curious?
I'm not skeptical, but just curious?
Mar 28, 2006, 07:23 AM
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hahaahh funny you should menchine that i have 1,300 in my intake manifold LOL, mangus, though similar i would not know about the differences inbetween the two BUT... mine is equipped with piranaha injectors, 5 solenoids for a setup where i can adjust everything independently, :P
Mar 28, 2006, 07:42 AM
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Here are two dyno charts of my car back when I just had a UTEC, TBE, cams, MBC, and the Injen kit. I later learned my AFRs were very rich (low to mid 10s) which is why my power is low for those mods. Injen's sniffer wideband was off (reading low), and my tuner's had been high.
The graphs in red are the Injen graphs (Intake and UICP kit). These were done in front of me on the Injen dyno on a very hot (95-100 deg) day. I watched them dyno with my stock intake and UICP, then quickly swap in the Injen kit (~20-30 mins) and dyno again. 3 runs on each setup.
The kit apparently caused a significant gain across the powerband, but the peak numbers are very similar. There was another graph of a 3rd run that I can't find which showed a greater peak gain. On one there appears to be a ~40 WHP gain at ~4-5000 rpm.
The graphs in red are the Injen graphs (Intake and UICP kit). These were done in front of me on the Injen dyno on a very hot (95-100 deg) day. I watched them dyno with my stock intake and UICP, then quickly swap in the Injen kit (~20-30 mins) and dyno again. 3 runs on each setup.
The kit apparently caused a significant gain across the powerband, but the peak numbers are very similar. There was another graph of a 3rd run that I can't find which showed a greater peak gain. On one there appears to be a ~40 WHP gain at ~4-5000 rpm.
Mar 28, 2006, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jmartinez1170
ok ok people on my car right off the bat no tuneing after i put the intake in my car it only gave me 11hp now after a street tune i got 23hp with it to this day its still on my car.
and adding to that the dyno pulls where done on the same day 35 mins apart.
and adding to that the dyno pulls where done on the same day 35 mins apart.
Mar 28, 2006, 06:22 PM
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Greetings All,
One thing to remember about open intakes on the evo is that you can not compare dyno numbers to real world gains. The main reason is that you are on the dyno with the hood up and fans directed at the engine. There is one rule with open intakes. The second the air intake breathes air that is warmer than ambient, you will lose power, period. This has been tested time and time again. Now for drag racing, different issue. Driving on a road course, different issue. In daily driving, stop and go traffic, you underhood temperatures will reach upwards of 160 degrees. Doesn't take rocket science to realize what that would do to performance.
For what it is worth, that is my two cents.
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Oliver Simons
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One thing to remember about open intakes on the evo is that you can not compare dyno numbers to real world gains. The main reason is that you are on the dyno with the hood up and fans directed at the engine. There is one rule with open intakes. The second the air intake breathes air that is warmer than ambient, you will lose power, period. This has been tested time and time again. Now for drag racing, different issue. Driving on a road course, different issue. In daily driving, stop and go traffic, you underhood temperatures will reach upwards of 160 degrees. Doesn't take rocket science to realize what that would do to performance.
For what it is worth, that is my two cents.
Cheers,
Oliver Simons
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415-641-9675
osimons@worksmitsu.com
Mar 28, 2006, 06:40 PM
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Same old song and dance. If everyone is so worried about underhood temps, then why don't you just make your own cold air? It would be too easy, and I'm sure that by the time the air reached the MAF it would be smoothed out enough for it to continue reading correctly. Or... (gasp) Keep the stocker. I for one like a little "bling" so I don't care. But it would be interesting to actually see tuned stock vs. tuned not.
By the way, since when do you care about your power output in stop-and-go traffic? I'm lost.
By the way, since when do you care about your power output in stop-and-go traffic? I'm lost.