JDM... have you heard of the rumor of the Evo Special Edition. Looks to be exactly what ur looking for.

EVOLUTION SE

 

mr baby..

 

First, the reason I didnt get a MR when I got my IX is that I thought I couldn't afford the MR, but after checking finances, I can.

We'll, my first reason is I got a Tarmac Black GSR and I hate black. I thought I would like it, I used to have a black civic and I liked the black. But now I live in the mountains and black looks super dirty 10 mins after I wash it. Also, I wash with good microfiber cloths and unless I wax it, there is still swirl marks. I had a silver VIII, but SC didnt have a silver GSR. Anyways, I'm gonna get a silver or white one.

Also, after going on a road trip today at speed a little higher (80-100mph) then normal highway speeds, the lack of a 6th gear really stands out. Also, my S2k has a 6speed and I always wanna shift to 6th in the GSR (I dont though)

And after thinking about the MR features and having two GSRs, I want HIDs (S2k has them, so evo needs them now), I want the aluminum roof because I love little details like that. The BBSs are better then the Enkies.

Last, my ADVANS are basiclly gone and instead of spending 1000-1200 for a new set, I'd rather put that money towards the MR.

Seriously though, the main reason is the paint. I really hate it so much and am willing to take a loss to have a different color.

And I like gettin new cars all the time.

 

how did you know i race F1???

crazy how stuff gets spread without you knowing? was it AMS that might have mentioned it to you? lol...........








yeah im jk.....

 

here we go the answer to the ABS debate might lye here

you say your used to just slaming on the pedal because you have the ABS ..... then since your mind is trained that way you might defenatly want the ABS dude!

i understand the part about some tard slamming his brakes and the brake pedal modulation is the last thing on you mind at that point its understandable!

see i didnt know you drive like that .... thats the way my friend drives lol everything is on or off for him , there is no inbetween lol. (let me clarafy that im not saying your like my friend in anyway shape or form.) including driving style or skill lol....

anyways my first car that i ever had was non ABS along with most since i mostly owned old school rides. and in the old school having front and rear disc brakes is about equivalent to a super sport ABS system lol. the nissa SE-R that got stolen was a non ABS car with STOP TECH big brakes in the front 4 piston calipers , the rear were the 350z track model rear brembo's! and to control and mount everyhting a proportioning valve was used from earl's fitings , and all the stuff to mount the calipers was done inhouse by me and my cousen. kinda kicks as to have a machine shop at your disposal . anyways my point is the car was super light with equivalent or stronger stopping power than the EVO , and i took that car everywhere rain or shine and sometimes even light snow and never had a problem with locking up the brakes.

but i learned to drive that way. thats what im used to , and when something on the road goes wrong its second nature on modulating the brake's for me.... i dont have to think about it at all. just kinda happens on its own.

but if you can train yourself you should defenatly be ok. but if you dont feel safe getting a car with no ABS then i wouldnt get it. do what you feel is right you know.

anyways i go to the Bay Area often if your ever want to meet up let me know... and il let you know when i go down and il take and show you my RS. hopefully before you have got the car ... that way it can help you on you descision... but if your getting the car very soon , then i probobly wont go down there before time...

anyways let me apologize for offending you dude! i didnt meen anything i said in a bad way... thats the bad part of typing you cant read something and know how the person ment it. i meen you cant tell wather someone is being sarcastic or helpfull or whatever , or if someone is jk or playing around wich is my case lol...

but i dont know is it just me , or are people way too touchy feely on what gets typed online?

or am i just to care free about what is typed about me... or what i type? oh well who know

 

your is a 2001 too huh? cool lol. but yeah i remember the dealers asking huge prices on the little guys... i got my car for 23,900 plus tax and liscence. i enjoyed it because it was a good car.

but yeah on small displacement engines to make gobs of power you need BOOST lol...well if you want to be streatable atleast! ive been there with the cant tell the difrence after all my mods... but hondas come tuned so well out the box that well , its hard to squeez alot of power over stock with little boltons you know...

turbo cars on the other hand are like magic assuming the internals and everything can hold , you just ad more fuel and up the boost and BAM instant *** dyno and reall dyno power gains and they are usually not slight... you get big gains lol.... like on the IX lol with the TBE , MBC , and a FLASH! but i do belive the 330whp is done on 93 pump wich you and me dont have but even with the 91 you should be very close to 330 whp

 

couldnt have said it better myself FJF

it is a learned skill .... just like driving stick. if youve always had auto then ofcourse your gona keep wanting it. when you get inside a stick car your gona NEE TO LEARN THE SKILL TO DRIVE the stick car....

so after learning , your set! was it something impossible to learn ? no. all of us on here in the U.S. with an EVO do it. none of us were born knowing how to drive stick you know.

so is having an auto nesesary? ofcourse not. to some people maybe.... but how do you think people did it back in the day's before ABS was invented? do you think all those people back then just crashed and died everytime it rained or snowed..... ofcourse not! if that were so then many of us wouldnt be here

 

so that doesnt have anything to do with the extreme nose heavines of that car huh? did you ever think it might be because of its design?

look at the japanese NSX-R. no power steering , no ABS , an no other unneded junk.... thats one of the fastest cars on a road course in the right hands. its so good on a road coarse it doesnt fall behind most supercars.... and the ones it does fall behind , it doesnt fall far

so saying that my uncle got a gen III viper not to long ago maybe 6 months ago..... not digin it lol. he want's to trade my dad for his C6 Z06 or trade the viper in at the dealer and get a C6 Z06.

nuff said there.^ not about ABS but about the not so grate design on the viper. it sucks cause im a mopar guy when it comes to american domestics

 

What an incredibly ignorant statement. The Viper has close to a 50/50 weight distribution, with 52 per cent, actually, on the rear wheels.

Mebbe your uncle can't drive. Anyway, the C6 Z is a great car, taking nothing away from that, but so's the Viper, "in the right hands," LOL.

 

Why do I need to speculate? As I said before the specs on the car are readily available on the internet. Also, anyone that knows anything about braking systems knows that ABS has a tendency to lock up when the brake system is placed out of balance by larger brakes.

Probably the same issue.



I'm probably older than you are and you have no idea about my skill level. With that said 99% of the people out there are better off with ABS, as threshold braking isn't the first natural thought to most people in a panic stop situation.

 

Let's see...you weren't there, where you? How's that for starters?

The point is, you don't know.

That's true. I'm not sure why you brought it up, as my comment said nothing about your competence. It was a response to your apparent stab at those who can actually modulate their brakes, which is a curious notion coming from someone who sees himself as an accomplished driver.

I don't recall anyone asserting the opposite. Let me know when we begin discussing 99% of the people and I'll bow out of the discussion.

We're talking about folks who see themselves as high-performance drivers and who also happen to drive one of the best performing automobiles ever available to the consumer. As a car does one of three things - it accelerated, decelerates and turns - not having a mastery of something as vital as the brakes certainly doesn't say much about one's skill level.

 

Not very good for starters. If you can't take readily available information and form a conclusion then that's your issue. Maybe you could benefit from researching how brakes work in relationship to ABS.





The point is that I don't have to be hit over the head with it to figure it out. The concept is called deductive reasoning. If you have any mechanical skills and understand braking systems then given the readily available information the conclusion is quite blaring.

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There's nothing curious about it. If a person that races F1 for a living can lock up his brakes in a panic situation on the track, in controlled conditions, with a better non ABS braking system than any road or track car without ABS, why would I feel that I am capable of doing better in a car that cost about the same amount as the F1 guys braking system? Since I'm sure you have won a few international track events and have never been involved in any accident or ever locked up the brakes, because you can "modulate" the brakes, you may have no need for it. For the rest of us ABS out performs anything most drivers can pull off.

There is a reason that ABS systems are outlawed in certain racing venues and considered "traction control".


Yeah, I know all about these "high performance driver" guys. They are usually the first one in the ditch or a tree somewhere. Arrogance is one of the main reasons you see so many EVO's being totalled. People over estimate their skill level.

I'm done. Proceed on Mr. Raikkonen or Shumacher, or whatever.

 

It's called wishful thinking.

I don't even know where to start. It's as if gross generalities, conjecture, speculation, and guesswork are somehow clumped into a big lump of watery rhetoric.

That's a fascinating leap of logic, given this thread's emphasis on learning.

 

I can threshold brake in my integra at speed and I can modulate the pedal....but I've always had ABS also....so I guess I'm just going to have to get used to the evo.

There was a period of time when my abs sensors were fouled up and I had no abs on the integra....hahahha

4 piston brakes on a 2300lb car is too much fun....all i had to do was stab the pedal and I could lock up my azenisrt-615

I'm just going to have to learn......


Has anyone actually locked up their RS in winter conditions???? snow or heavy rain??? Does it skid straight or does it start sliding with the backend out????

 

This may be another noob question but have any of you with the RS ever had to pump your brakes in a stopping situation???

Do you guys just threshold brake??? Or if it starts to skid then you pump it??? Hahhah the only other car I have driven without ABS is a Kia rental......and needless to say I crashed that POS in the rain due to crappy tires + no ABS +downhill in the rain = super skid

This is where all my fears stem from.....I shoulda never took that Kia rental FAWK!!!

But I am assuming since the evo stock brakes and pads are so good that nothing short of a slam would cause a slide or skid???? As long as I ease the pedal on I shouldnt slide correct?