is this a drag setup? or road track set up or just an all around setup.

 

I measured my car about a week ago.

All stock suspension

front toe out .25"
each tire showed .75 degree of negative camber

unfortunately I did not check the toe on the rear... dammmit

 

There are alot of places in Northern California that has excellent reputation for doing alignments. Most of the people who race go to these guys.

For your perfect alignment settings, it really depends on what you want to do with the car, how long you want the tires to last, how sensitive you want the car to turn in, how much you want the car to wander on the freeway and follow grooves, how much oversteer or understeer you want.

 

As much as I like driving to Portland as fast as possible from Seattle (1:40min cur best hehe) I don't know if I want to drive all the way down there for an alignment.

I found a good alignment thread for the Pac NW, just don't know which one has the better equipment and has the best ability to use it properly.

 

That's right! Buy a piece of equipment and become a guru overnight...! AMAZING!!

 

Might want to also consider getting your alignment while you're sitting in the driver's seat.

I had my last one done like that, and when I the car got on the rack with me in it, there was a .5 difference in camber from left to right...

 

getting my car aligned tomorrow after jic coilover install
i have a good place

 

I've been doing DIY alignment on many different cars for many years. When I first started doing this I found my cars stayed in alignment, sometimes for years, if I avoided big potholes. Every professional alignment seemed to help the car for a few months and then abnormal tire wear returned.

Don't let the lack of a flat floor stop you, there is no such thing. Survey the floor and make some shims to park the car on.

 

Toms Tires in Long Beach does good work for ~$90. I had Robert Fuller do his thing a month after one of their alignments, and he was surprised to find they were spot on.

 

yeahh.... I have been doing my own alignments as well. That's not going to work if the surface is not totally flat (even at an angle) My parking spot is curved up 3 degrees like the edge of a piece of paper. The alignment sure looked straight, the car tracked straight, but the alignment was all over the place.

Ideally you need a totally flat surface without using shims. when surveying a potential spot, you need one of those 6 foot levels to verify that the surface is totally flat.

 

When I bought my car it pulled to the left.... but I was waiting for the suspention install. Well after the install, I tried to give the car an alingment at work on our Hunter machine and it wouldn't work cause the front on the car was to low, it was messing up the longitudinal beam. So I called up the ex girlfriend who happens to an assistant storg manager at a local Good Year shop and she had her alingment specialist do the job... When he was done about 1 1/2 hours later and I was driving home I could not beleive how much better the car drove. I know he put some weight in the driver seat cause they had a seat cover on the seat, some type of what looked to heavy sand bags where placed on it.
I also got a before and after print out of the specs and it was way out from the factory He set the toe at 0, and the front camber... well the best he could, not much or any adjustment there with the factory bolts, and the caster was dead on... As for the rear nothing was changed, cause it was with in spec.
I would ask for a before and after print out if I were you guys, that way you know if anything was accually done to your car

 

So Chris, are you no longer doing your own alignments, then? I wanted to learn how to as well, and was thinking about pouring self-leveling concrete in my garage... but I bet that's a total PITA.

 

NIce info!!35whp on aligment is amazing!!

 

For the two wise guys in California, go jump in a lake.

I didn't claim to be an expert anywhere on here. I also said it is odd that the only thing I did was an alignment and the cars power has risen drastically and descibed why I think it would make a big difference on knurled rollers. If you either of you don't like my opinion you can form your own and do something on your own. Until then you little keyboard critics can crawl under a rock without oxygen.

On top of that it doesn't take a whole lot of genius to align a car properly if you have the correct tools and the settings that are needed for what the car has to do. So, since I can do that task maybe I am an expert.

Alignment specs, as has been said it is going to depend completely on what you are doing with the car, what kind of tire wear is acceptable etc.

SINCE I AM NO EXPERT, I ask Robert Fuller a lot of questions if we need to do a customers car about what he recommends for a particular guy. I have only had to do a few of these on my own so far, one was drag only and Trevor's car is more of an "all around" vehicle so it won't be perfect in any situtuation but will work well in all.

I would tend to say an alignment shop that cares about what they are doing would be able to give you a good alignment. Their "in spec" numbers are much further off than doing the alignment the way we do it, or other shops that specialize in race alignments. From what I hear some of the best places to go are shops that specialize in setting up Porsche's for road racing. I have heard this from 3-4 guys in different areas of the country.

 

See David, this is where you are wrong, you're not the only one that has been messing with 4G63's for over 9yrs. Please quit making that your only response to criticism.

Thank you.