Evo IX Dyno Tune Results
Originally Posted by Max-Q
Those numbers look real good especially for 91 oct. The IXs are beasts with simple bolt ons.
My IX made 340 hp/ 327 wtq on 93 oct and my STi made 304 hp/ 342 tq with the same mods (minus the mbc on the STi) One difference though my STi has no lag at all. The tuner tuned the variable valve system to start boosting at around 1,800 rpms. Basically any time you give it gas in any gear you have full power.
But the IX is still much faster
BTW- My boost is set at 24 psi on 93 oct on the IX
My IX made 340 hp/ 327 wtq on 93 oct and my STi made 304 hp/ 342 tq with the same mods (minus the mbc on the STi) One difference though my STi has no lag at all. The tuner tuned the variable valve system to start boosting at around 1,800 rpms. Basically any time you give it gas in any gear you have full power.
But the IX is still much faster
BTW- My boost is set at 24 psi on 93 oct on the IX
This dyno reading was not converted to SAE corrected figure.
My dynojet number went from 337 to 329whp when converted form STD to SAE corrected figure...
Good number though...
My dynojet number went from 337 to 329whp when converted form STD to SAE corrected figure...
Good number though...
Originally Posted by spyderx
This dyno reading was not converted to SAE corrected figure.
My dynojet number went from 337 to 329whp when converted form STD to SAE corrected figure...
Good number though...
My dynojet number went from 337 to 329whp when converted form STD to SAE corrected figure...
Good number though...
Originally Posted by BlueFish
What turbo you have on the STI.
Also, the 340 on the Evo was uncorrected. The correction factor for that dynojet was 1.04= 354 whp. It was done when the temp was 93 degrees
Originally Posted by EVOIXMR8916
still waiting on the rpm awnser.....thanks in advance
Karn
Originally Posted by BlueFish
I have no idea on what that is(Smoothing). Can you please explain.
ThanX
ThanX
It turns it into a more "best fit" line than an actual point-plotting line.
The lower the smoothing factor, the more accurate representation you are seeing.
If you go lower, you can see possible issues like wastegate solenoid flutter or other things that you won't see with heavy smoothing.
Also, good solid tunes should be on low smoothing...On high smoothing, everything looks nice and curvy.
There is no answer, because you didn't ask a question that made any sense.
Guys, why are you all asking questios that can be answered by looking at the graph?
1) You can see the boost was around 25psi (24 if you say so, but it looks like 25 and is still at 25 about 1500rpm after the spike, which I consider dangerous on 91oct)
2) You can see the AFR curve, too, but the tick marks are so close together that you can't get any specific details, plus there are no lines crossing the page to denote where the tick marks reside
3) Of course this is the stock ECU. Why did that one guy say it wasn't?
4) Are people just not paying attention over the past year? These are the numbers we EXPECT on IXs with these mods. A IX with a custom flash and these mods can make 350-360whp on 93oct, and this is really good power on 91oct, although the high boost scares me.
5) STD and SAE don't always have the same correlation. Again, the graph shows a 1.02 STD correction, so the true numbers are 326whp/318wtq - still not bad. SAE could show higher OR lower - it just depends. The conditions on this run were 80*, which really doesn't require the 1.02 correction.
6) $500 for a custom tune + dyno time is not bad at all. This also tells me that Harman is no longer using EcuTek on IXs.
7) Read my sig. I've had it there since the beginning of the year and guess what...it says 330whp for stg1, which is the same mods except without the LICP and with only a base flash. This is exactly what all IX owners should expect.
8) Smoothing 5 is normal. That rounds the jagged edges that are so common on a Dynojet. Doing low smoothing does NOT mean it's more accurate. Quite the opposite most of the time. A plot with 0 smoothing looks like sawteeth, which also gives unnatural peaks and valleys - this always gives a higher peak WHP that isn't necessarily real. Notice the curve on a DD or Mustang - it's even smoother than Smoothing level 5 on a Dynojet.
Guys, why are you all asking questios that can be answered by looking at the graph?
1) You can see the boost was around 25psi (24 if you say so, but it looks like 25 and is still at 25 about 1500rpm after the spike, which I consider dangerous on 91oct)
2) You can see the AFR curve, too, but the tick marks are so close together that you can't get any specific details, plus there are no lines crossing the page to denote where the tick marks reside
3) Of course this is the stock ECU. Why did that one guy say it wasn't?
4) Are people just not paying attention over the past year? These are the numbers we EXPECT on IXs with these mods. A IX with a custom flash and these mods can make 350-360whp on 93oct, and this is really good power on 91oct, although the high boost scares me.
5) STD and SAE don't always have the same correlation. Again, the graph shows a 1.02 STD correction, so the true numbers are 326whp/318wtq - still not bad. SAE could show higher OR lower - it just depends. The conditions on this run were 80*, which really doesn't require the 1.02 correction.
6) $500 for a custom tune + dyno time is not bad at all. This also tells me that Harman is no longer using EcuTek on IXs.

7) Read my sig. I've had it there since the beginning of the year and guess what...it says 330whp for stg1, which is the same mods except without the LICP and with only a base flash. This is exactly what all IX owners should expect.
8) Smoothing 5 is normal. That rounds the jagged edges that are so common on a Dynojet. Doing low smoothing does NOT mean it's more accurate. Quite the opposite most of the time. A plot with 0 smoothing looks like sawteeth, which also gives unnatural peaks and valleys - this always gives a higher peak WHP that isn't necessarily real. Notice the curve on a DD or Mustang - it's even smoother than Smoothing level 5 on a Dynojet.
Last edited by Warrtalon; Sep 21, 2006 at 09:59 PM.
Originally Posted by SophieSleeps
The software takes the dyno and tries to make the line smoother.
It turns it into a more "best fit" line than an actual point-plotting line.
The lower the smoothing factor, the more accurate representation you are seeing.
If you go lower, you can see possible issues like wastegate solenoid flutter or other things that you won't see with heavy smoothing.
Also, good solid tunes should be on low smoothing...On high smoothing, everything looks nice and curvy.
It turns it into a more "best fit" line than an actual point-plotting line.
The lower the smoothing factor, the more accurate representation you are seeing.
If you go lower, you can see possible issues like wastegate solenoid flutter or other things that you won't see with heavy smoothing.
Also, good solid tunes should be on low smoothing...On high smoothing, everything looks nice and curvy.
Ok. Went to the track tonight. And I have an interesting issue. When there are cars reving next to my car my idle gets screwed up. What do you guys think this is from. Also when I go to LACR my vacuum gets screwed up. Instead of -20PSI I have -15PSI. Can someone please tell me what is up with my car? And I did run 12.8 at 105mph. Do you guys think I have vacuum leak or another problem.
Karn
Karn
Last edited by BlueFish; Oct 7, 2006 at 01:21 AM.
You really should invest in a Tactrix OBDII cable and logging software. You want to make sure your car is not knocking when raced or on the street after any tune, especially one that was performed on a DynoJet (if they did not employ the eddy current load option). IF they tuned on the dyno without loading the car properly, your tune could end up leaner on the street/track than during the dyno pulls. By the looks of the graph (hard to tell with the axis scaling), you were perhaps at 11.5:1 on the dyno. It is possible that you could now be running much leaner than intended by the tuner, getting some knock, and the ECU is pulling timing during the runs. Just a guess given all that you are reporting.
With the very minor investment in a cable and logging software, you'll KNOW if all is well after some tuner SAYS all is well. A logger, cable, and a supported wideband sensor system are essential for any Evo owner trying to mod the car with a stock ECU.
Your MPH (105) clearly shows you are down on power from what the dyno reported, and something is definitely amiss. I guess you could have a boost leak or some other mechanical problem than the tune, but you should have logging ability to ensure your tune is all good on the street and track.
With the very minor investment in a cable and logging software, you'll KNOW if all is well after some tuner SAYS all is well. A logger, cable, and a supported wideband sensor system are essential for any Evo owner trying to mod the car with a stock ECU.
Your MPH (105) clearly shows you are down on power from what the dyno reported, and something is definitely amiss. I guess you could have a boost leak or some other mechanical problem than the tune, but you should have logging ability to ensure your tune is all good on the street and track.
Originally Posted by Roberto
You really should invest in a Tactrix OBDII cable and logging software. You want to make sure your car is not knocking when raced or on the street after any tune, especially one that was performed on a DynoJet (if they did not employ the eddy current load option). IF they tuned on the dyno without loading the car properly, your tune could end up leaner on the street/track than during the dyno pulls. By the looks of the graph (hard to tell with the axis scaling), you were perhaps at 11.5:1 on the dyno. It is possible that you could now be running much leaner than intended by the tuner, getting some knock, and the ECU is pulling timing during the runs. Just a guess given all that you are reporting.
With the very minor investment in a cable and logging software, you'll KNOW if all is well after some tuner SAYS all is well. A logger, cable, and a supported wideband sensor system are essential for any Evo owner trying to mod the car with a stock ECU.
Your MPH (105) clearly shows you are down on power from what the dyno reported, and something is definitely amiss. I guess you could have a boost leak or some other mechanical problem than the tune, but you should have logging ability to ensure your tune is all good on the street and track.
With the very minor investment in a cable and logging software, you'll KNOW if all is well after some tuner SAYS all is well. A logger, cable, and a supported wideband sensor system are essential for any Evo owner trying to mod the car with a stock ECU.
Your MPH (105) clearly shows you are down on power from what the dyno reported, and something is definitely amiss. I guess you could have a boost leak or some other mechanical problem than the tune, but you should have logging ability to ensure your tune is all good on the street and track.
Karn
Originally Posted by BlueFish
Ok. Went to the track tonight. And I have an interesting issue. When there are cars reving next to my car my idle gets screwed up. What do you guys think this is from. Also when I go to LACR my vacuum gets screwed up. Instead of -20PSI I have -15PSI. Can someone please tell me what is up with my car? And I did run 12.8 at 105mph. Do you guys think I have vacuum leak or another problem.
Karn
Karn
? I've had this happen to me while at a light with a harley next to me... read somewhere that it messes up the maf signal.... don't quote me. Try searching
Originally Posted by BlueFish
Ok. Went to the track tonight. And I have an interesting issue. When there are cars reving next to my car my idle gets screwed up. What do you guys think this is from. Also when I go to LACR my vacuum gets screwed up. Instead of -20PSI I have -15PSI. Can someone please tell me what is up with my car? And I did run 12.8 at 105mph. Do you guys think I have vacuum leak or another problem.
Karn
Karn
I'll be going up to LACR next Friday evening let me know If you'll be there. I'd like to see you car run. I'm hoping to hook up better this time around. I was trying out the launch control that Tuning Technologies had put in my ECU and was spinning badly out of the hole. Hope the track is better prepped this time around.
Last edited by EvoTio; Oct 7, 2006 at 04:05 PM.


