2.4 Liter Engines For Evo! [MERGED]
Originally posted by 909
but most definately, evo and STi should stick to their roots. The 2.0 liter has tons of parts, going 2.4 = no parts and experimentation (on the consumer side) with a completely new engine, which i frown upon. I like proven power, don't like to be guinea pig. That's why i chose the Evo over the STi.
but most definately, evo and STi should stick to their roots. The 2.0 liter has tons of parts, going 2.4 = no parts and experimentation (on the consumer side) with a completely new engine, which i frown upon. I like proven power, don't like to be guinea pig. That's why i chose the Evo over the STi.
Last edited by ShapeGSX; May 23, 2003 at 07:54 AM.
The only valid reason NOT to go with the 2.4l would be if it reduced the redline significantly. I doubt it would. Gas milage might suffer a little if you have a heavy foot. Our EVO's really are turd's when off-boost and the increase in displacment would help cure that for sure!
Originally posted by 909
Bozz Speed and Toda Racing makes 2.3 litre kits. Info is in the May 2002 Option 2 (Japanese magazine).
Bozz Speed and Toda Racing makes 2.3 litre kits. Info is in the May 2002 Option 2 (Japanese magazine).
ex-ralliart uk (now I believe 'xtreme cars') has been experimenting with a 2.3 stroker and they seem to like the package they came up with based on it.
These companies are only about 3 to 4 years behind the US in terms of innovation. 
Seriously, this stuff was being done 4 years ago with the 4G63. Jeff Carpenter was one of the first guys, if not the first, to build a DSM stroker.
JDM stroker kits existed since the early to mid 90s...besides, I don't like using USDM parts, no offence to those who do. As for the 2.4, you say that everything is the same except for the deck height, but I wouldnt take a gamble on that. I'm reiterating that I use only JDM parts, US parts are non-applicable to me.
Your loss. 
The whole JDM/USDM thing doesn't really apply to Mitsu. With an Eclipse, for example, you don't get any benefit when you swap in a "JDM" engine. It pretty much all the same stuff, with a few exceptions.
But some people like to say they have "JDM" parts anyway. (shrug) They usually are the guys who spend tons of money and don't get any faster than someone who uses "inferior" parts from the US.

The whole JDM/USDM thing doesn't really apply to Mitsu. With an Eclipse, for example, you don't get any benefit when you swap in a "JDM" engine. It pretty much all the same stuff, with a few exceptions.
But some people like to say they have "JDM" parts anyway. (shrug) They usually are the guys who spend tons of money and don't get any faster than someone who uses "inferior" parts from the US.
i guess it's culture..where i come from, NOS is a cheat, fitting parts that are not intended for the Evo is a cheat. No doubt american tuned cars are fast, but that's not the way i want to do my car (like fitting on a mustang auto tranny, HUGE turbo and NOS for low end). Honestly, if mitsu came out with their 2.4 turbo for the Evo, and the STis are the same 2.5 turbo spec, I'll go back to BMWs and Porsches. All I want is to have the same JDM cars that are released to the rest of the world. Call me a Japanese parts fan or whatever...that's the whole reason why I have an Evo anyway.
2.4 is too crazy for me. That's messing with engine geometry, which I don't understand. I also don't understand suspension geometry.
I tried reading up on how to degree cams (which you need to do to put in a 2.4) and it blew my mind. I think I saw brains running out of my ears.
This is why I'm stuck with a stock suspension, stock engined car. Except for bolt-ons.
Maybe if crankwalk ever visits my 7-bolt, I'll be forced to learn. Until that time, I remain ignorant, and declare 2.4L conversions to be unholy mutants with no place on God's green earth.
Amen!
I tried reading up on how to degree cams (which you need to do to put in a 2.4) and it blew my mind. I think I saw brains running out of my ears.
This is why I'm stuck with a stock suspension, stock engined car. Except for bolt-ons.
Maybe if crankwalk ever visits my 7-bolt, I'll be forced to learn. Until that time, I remain ignorant, and declare 2.4L conversions to be unholy mutants with no place on God's green earth.
Amen!
Originally posted by Yojimbo
Yes, as do quite a few others in Europe and the UK. There's something to be said for a tuning shop who owns the fastest lap around the Tsukuba right now.
Yes, as do quite a few others in Europe and the UK. There's something to be said for a tuning shop who owns the fastest lap around the Tsukuba right now.
With all I have said about 2.4L engines and strokers, I don't feel that there is ANY reason to go with one.
The 2.0 is more than enough. People belt out 700hp with these things.
Of course, Magnus has started offering de-stroked 2.4L blocks (2.1L) that give you more torque than the 2.0, and rev to the freaking moon. That is pretty interesting, but I don't think I'll ever buy one.
The 2.0 is more than enough. People belt out 700hp with these things.
Of course, Magnus has started offering de-stroked 2.4L blocks (2.1L) that give you more torque than the 2.0, and rev to the freaking moon. That is pretty interesting, but I don't think I'll ever buy one.
Originally posted by Meeyatch1
You have an Evo with a different motor? Did you swap out or modify your OEM one?
You have an Evo with a different motor? Did you swap out or modify your OEM one?
I'm too poor after buying my car to do anything like that for a long time, not that I neccessarily want to.
It'll be a few months before I can catch back up in the finances department.
Last edited by Yojimbo; May 23, 2003 at 04:23 PM.



Oh well atleast now I know...thanks