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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Wow. Then this forum is populated with a lot of douche bags. For the record, everyone who has ever complained about the lack of cruise control or the cheap plastic interior in the Evo is a douche bag, as is everyone who has owned (or wants to own) an Infiniti G35, BMW M3, Cadillac CTS-V, etc.
I don't mean to offend, but yeah that is basically what I meant. Good lord, a cadillac CTS-V? Can anyone say bald headed lawyer? (I am receding by the way so I may start wanting one eventually)

I am a little baised since I live near north scottsdale. There are a million (or more) twerps driving around here in gleaming snob mobiles. High school kids drive Escalades and H2's. I'm not a hater, technically I could buy one of those types of cars if I really wanted one. It's just not a stereotype I would want to be associated with. I mean, I do love cars.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Well, I agree that the yet-to-be-known modability of the X will be a factor in exactly how well IX's hold their value.

But it's still wishful thinking to believe the value of IX's will increase after the X is released. That just about never happens when model goes through a dramatic change in body style - especially when the new model looks better. Also I don't think the Supra comparison is valid - different situation because they stopped producing them entirely.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Mathgeek, you don't realize how much in the minority you are. You're NOT the normal Evo owner - you are quite the enigma with how you treat your Evo and the reasons you have an Evo. You are taking your view on the Evo and applying it to the X without realizing that you are so far from the norm.

You said it's inevitable that the previous platform will decline in value because of a new platform, but then you say you had a 3G. Anyone who owned a 3G should know that the 3G by NO MEANS devalued the 1G/2Gs, and if anything, increased their value. 1Gs and 2Gs can run circles around a 3G, and the 3G had HORRIBLE resale value. My wife had one, and it sold for half its purchase price after only 2 years of ownership. 1Gs and 2Gs are much more valuable relative to their age than 3Gs. The X's new engine may turn out to be some super never-before-seen engine that is as bulletproof as the cast iron 4G63 (not likely), or it may turn out to be only good for stock power due to being aluminum. Either way, it is a departure from the raw, rally-inspired nature of previous Evos, so if it doesn't perform better than the VIII/IX, then the value of VIII/IXs will not drop at all and might rise over time like the Supra.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by EVOBrad
Well, I agree that the yet-to-be-known modability of the X will be a factor in exactly how well IX's hold their value.

But it's still wishful thinking to believe the value of IX's will increase after the X is released. That just about never happens when model goes through a dramatic change in body style - especially when the new model looks better. Also I don't think the Supra comparison is valid - different situation because they stopped producing them entirely.
We're not saying the value is going to go up immediately, but over time, it could go up RELATIVE TO ITS AGE. Again, not saying that a 28k IX is going to suddenly be worth 30k. I'm saying that instead of it dropping value faster than normal, it will drop slower than normal. Notice how the 03s are nowhere near as good as the 06s, but they still sell for 20k despite being just under 30k new and being 4 years old. That's AMAZING value holding, so if the X isn't dramatically better than the IX (like the IX is vs the 03 VIII), then the IXs will not suffer a loss in value like Mathgeek is saying.

The Supra may have discontinued, but that's almost the same thing with the 4G63 going away. It's the motor that is legendary, not the body style. Plus, maybe you haven't seen the real production photos of the X, but it's freakin' ugly. It looks nothing like the Concept X after removing all the goodies.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Mathgeek, you don't realize how much in the minority you are. You're NOT the normal Evo owner - you are quite the enigma with how you treat your Evo and the reasons you have an Evo. You are taking your view on the Evo and applying it to the X without realizing that you are so far from the norm.

You said it's inevitable that the previous platform will decline in value because of a new platform, but then you say you had a 3G. Anyone who owned a 3G should know that the 3G by NO MEANS devalued the 1G/2Gs, and if anything, increased their value. 1Gs and 2Gs can run circles around a 3G, and the 3G had HORRIBLE resale value. My wife had one, and it sold for half its purchase price after only 2 years of ownership. 1Gs and 2Gs are much more valuable relative to their age than 3Gs. The X's new engine may turn out to be some super never-before-seen engine that is as bulletproof as the cast iron 4G63 (not likely), or it may turn out to be only good for stock power due to being aluminum. Either way, it is a departure from the raw, rally-inspired nature of previous Evos, so if it doesn't perform better than the VIII/IX, then the value of VIII/IXs will not drop at all and might rise over time like the Supra.
Well put, and perhaps I was wrong. It may be that the X will be to the Evo what the 3G was to the Eclipse. In that case, the VII/IX will hold its value. Time will tell, though.

As far as me being in the minority is concerned, I beg to differ. My reasons for owning an Evo? It's a blast to drive while being utterly functional and practical. How do I treat my Evo? I maintain it religiously but it sees 7K RPM multiple times per day.

Finally, I'd be interested in knowing what your definition of a "normal Evo owner" is. And upon what do you base your definition?
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dinothegreat
I don't mean to offend, but yeah that is basically what I meant. Good lord, a cadillac CTS-V? Can anyone say bald headed lawyer? (I am receding by the way so I may start wanting one eventually)

I am a little baised since I live near north scottsdale. There are a million (or more) twerps driving around here in gleaming snob mobiles. High school kids drive Escalades and H2's. I'm not a hater, technically I could buy one of those types of cars if I really wanted one. It's just not a stereotype I would want to be associated with. I mean, I do love cars.
There was, quite recently, an Evo owner on this forum who traded his Evo for a new CTS-V. A few folks had complimentary things to say about this, although some thought it was a sell-out. But people's tastes change over time. I, for one, reject the notion that tiring of one's Evo and moving on to "greener pastures" constitutes an act of sacrilige.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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The EVO IX will go up in price, SOUTH COAST is already raising their prices on new and used EVOS and giving less on trade ins. I got lucky and for my IX SE for 27500 OTD + shipping to oregon. hope this helps they just upped the prices like 2k in one month just wait for the next months to come.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LY03-EVO-VIII
The EVO IX will go up in price, SOUTH COAST is already raising their prices on new and used EVOS and giving less on trade ins. I got lucky and for my IX SE for 27500 OTD + shipping to oregon. hope this helps they just upped the prices like 2k in one month just wait for the next months to come.
I would have expected this. The next year will see no new production. Supply and demand necessitates that the cost of new IX's will increase if people are willing to pay. Let's see what happens when the X arrives on lots, though. Any IX's left will be let go for cost.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Comparing the Evo VIII/IX to a 3g Eclipse!!!! Blasphemy!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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my bad guys
i live in Baltimore, MD

im hoping to get the est possible deal but i went and talked to a salesman at a dealership and he said he cant get any more evo's....so based off of that i was thinking everyone is going to try to sell them at sticker or above sticker

just a thought
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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There's tons at SouthCoast Mitsu, who is a vendor on here. Call 'em up, pick the one you want, pay the very low price (below invoice), and pay for it to be shipped to your house. You will save 5-6k over buying one in MD.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Well, then you should have showed him how 5 other dealers in the area are selling BELOW invoice, and then walk out and go to one of those 5 other dealers. Why would you go to Glendale when other SoCal dealers are selling at near wholesale price...and why would you consider paying sticker to be "cutting you a deal"? That makes no sense to me...
I was there with a friend who was buying a Galant. I'm smart enough to know to go to SouthCoast... just thought I'd share one experience.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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I was at the dealer yesterday and they had more Evos in stock than back then when I purchased it in October 2006. Maybe they got some transfered-in I dont know but they had this MR SE for over $36,000 and I was like WOWW before i saw the price tag I was expecting a big drop coz we're in 2007.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mathgeek
There was, quite recently, an Evo owner on this forum who traded his Evo for a new CTS-V. A few folks had complimentary things to say about this, although some thought it was a sell-out. But people's tastes change over time. I, for one, reject the notion that tiring of one's Evo and moving on to "greener pastures" constitutes an act of sacrilige.
To each his own, I guess. I still think some guys on here spend more time watching Christopher Lowell than driving thier Evo's.
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