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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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well since the evo 10 will be out soon....
do you think dealers will sell the evo 9's at sticker price or below?

its hard to find any dealers around here that have evo's. and since the evo 10 will be out, i was thinkin they could sell them for below sticker or maybe a little above sticker since they havent made them since 06....

do you think it will be hard to get a deal on one?
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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There are several places that are selling them below invoice. Selling at sticker price is a foregone conclusion.

You didn't put your location in your profile, so we don't know where "here" is. The X will be nothing like the previous 9 versions, so the IXs are likely to become more valuable, not less valuable.

Did you say you hope they sell them "maybe a little above sticker"? Above sticker was too high even when they were brand new...

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Yeah they hardly ever sell for exactly sticker price since everyone wants the best possible deal. I agree I think the IXs are going to be more valuable.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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South Coast Mitsubishi still has Evos!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 02:43 AM
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I was at Glendale (SoCal) and they had 3 MR's on the lot. ALL of them had a $4,000 dealer markup on them!!! The salesman said he could cut me a deal and sell it to me for sticker. Yeah right...
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by reTro
I was at Glendale (SoCal) and they had 3 MR's on the lot. ALL of them had a $4,000 dealer markup on them!!! The salesman said he could cut me a deal and sell it to me for sticker. Yeah right...
Well, then you should have showed him how 5 other dealers in the area are selling BELOW invoice, and then walk out and go to one of those 5 other dealers. Why would you go to Glendale when other SoCal dealers are selling at near wholesale price...and why would you consider paying sticker to be "cutting you a deal"? That makes no sense to me...
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
There are several places that are selling them below invoice. Selling at sticker price is a foregone conclusion.

You didn't put your location in your profile, so we don't know where "here" is. The X will be nothing like the previous 9 versions, so the IXs are likely to become more valuable, not less valuable.

Did you say you hope they sell them "maybe a little above sticker"? Above sticker was too high even when they were brand new...
Granted, the X will be a dramatic departure from the VIII/IX, but it is possible that it will represent a better iteration of the Evo than the previous versions. As it stands now it is slated to have noticeably more HP/torque and more interior refinements. If can duplicate or exceed the performance of past models, and edge its way into the luxury sports sedan market, then I can't see how the IX would be more valuable except to a few purists.

I see prices on the VIIIs and IXs dropping in the same way that the value of the 3rd generation Eclipses declined in when the 4G came out.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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No chance, man. The 3g was a pile of crap - it in no way can be compared to the Evo VIII/IX. That is just bollocks right there. The 4g was way better than the 3g, but even if the X is better than the VIII/IX, the VIII/IX are still incredible performance machines, and you forget that they are the last remaining cars with the 4G63. It does not matter that the X is "reported to have more hp/tq and more interior refinements." We don't get the Evo for interior refinements, and the hp/tq are just crank numbers on paper. What really matters is if the aluminum engine that no one has ever touched or modified can gain 100whp over stock with less than $2k in mods and gain 250whp over stock without needing to upgrade the internals. Plus, if it edges its way into the luxury sports sedan market, then the VIII/IXs will become cult-like cars. They are in a completely different market and will flourish.

Comparing the Evo VIII/IX to a 3g Eclipse!!!! Blasphemy!
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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i completely agree, its been noted that performance numbers are to be much higher on the X but what matters to a majority of people will be how easy it is to mod. Already it will be at a disadvantage on that note because of not using the 4g63 so certain mods may take time to come out. Like above noted some people may not like having the "luxury options" too. I know its not going to be like jumping into an audi or anything but from what ive seen the interior actually reminds me of my audi alot especially the center screen on the dash.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No chance, man. The 3g was a pile of crap - it in no way can be compared to the Evo VIII/IX. That is just bollocks right there. The 4g was way better than the 3g, but even if the X is better than the VIII/IX, the VIII/IX are still incredible performance machines, and you forget that they are the last remaining cars with the 4G63. It does not matter that the X is "reported to have more hp/tq and more interior refinements." We don't get the Evo for interior refinements, and the hp/tq are just crank numbers on paper. What really matters is if the aluminum engine that no one has ever touched or modified can gain 100whp over stock with less than $2k in mods and gain 250whp over stock without needing to upgrade the internals. Plus, if it edges its way into the luxury sports sedan market, then the VIII/IXs will become cult-like cars. They are in a completely different market and will flourish.

Comparing the Evo VIII/IX to a 3g Eclipse!!!! Blasphemy!
Whoa there. I never directly compared the Evo with the 3G. I owned a 3G before I bought the Evo and the two are worlds apart when it comes to performance. What I did was make an analogy with regard to the Evo's inevitable decline in value upon the advent of a new platform. I'm fairly confident that this phenomenon occurs across the board with ANY make/model, regardless. For example, when the latest version of the Ford Taurus came out several years ago I imagine that the value of the previous generation declined substanially. Now I wouldn't pay a plug nickel for any Taurus, but the point is made.

I know that there will always be Evo purists who shun the prospect of the X becoming "soft" and moving away from its pure, raw rally heritage (and I suspect that you fall into that category). But there are also several Evo owners who are irritated with the lack of refinement that the current platform offers, and own the car in spite of this, not because of it. I myself love the almost primitive feel of the car. But there are also days when I would appreciate a less seismic driving experience. All I was suggesting is that it is possible that the X will prove more desirable overall (performance + sophisitication) and that demand for the car will subsequently be higher than it was for the previous iterations. Such an occurrence might serve to keep the value of the VIII/IX from increasing. You must allow for the possibility that the X, about which relatively little is known, could prove to be so amazing that a significant number of VIII/IX owners will want to dump their car and get into one. If that happens, there will be a decline in the value of used Evos.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:29 AM
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City mitsubishi in jacksonville has like 10 evo 9's in a row on there lot, like two SE's, an RS, 2MR's, and a few SSL's and regular GSR's. Its pretty sweet to look at, maybe ill make my way over there for some pictures today, wait, crap I dont have a car.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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I dont think we'll be seeing ANY 1000+ hp Evo X's. The VIII / IX Evo's will be similar to Mk IV Supras. The new X may be a marvelous machine but I dont think it will enjoy the aftermarket support of the VIII/IX's.

And since were talking about Eclipse's, the downfall of the platform was when the 4g63 was removed. Notice you will rarely if ever see even moderatly fast (12 seconds or faster) 3G or 4G Eclipse's. There are tons of very quick 1G and 2G Eclipse's in spite of the 3G's and 4G's being faster than 1G's and 2G's in stock form.

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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mathgeek
Granted, the X will be a dramatic departure from the VIII/IX, but it is possible that it will represent a better iteration of the Evo than the previous versions. As it stands now it is slated to have noticeably more HP/torque and more interior refinements. If can duplicate or exceed the performance of past models, and edge its way into the luxury sports sedan market, then I can't see how the IX would be more valuable except to a few purists.
Luxury sport sedans are for douche bags only, and anyone who complains about the Evo's lack of interior refinement fits into that catagory rather nicely.

As for the OP, get one while you still can! Hurry! I wish I could buy another one.

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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Evo IX
I dont think we'll be seeing ANY 1000+ hp Evo X's. The VIII / IX Evo's will be similar to Mk IV Supras. The new X may be a marvelous machine but I dont think it will enjoy the aftermarket support of the VIII/IX's.

And since were talking about Eclipse's, the downfall of the platform was when the 4g63 was removed. Notice you will rarely if ever see even moderatly fast (12 seconds or faster) 3G or 4G Eclipse's. There are tons of very quick 1G and 2G Eclipse's in spite of the 3G's and 4G's being faster than 1G's and 2G's in stock form.
That's true. I looked into modifications for my 3G and was disappointed at the lack of any viable options apart from suspension upgrades and body kits. Yes there were turbo kits for the 3.0 V6 engines, but they were notoriously expensive and had dubious reliability. The Eclispe moved away from its original intent (1G, 2G) and became more of a touring coupe. There is no doubt that the 4G is much better than the 3G in that regard.

One other point. How many Evo owners are tuning enthusiasts? I suspect that there are fewer that modify than we might imagine. To those people, the Evo X will be more appealing than the Evo VIII/IX.
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Old Feb 3, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Luxury sport sedans are for douche bags only, and anyone who complains about the Evo's lack of interior refinement fits into that catagory rather nicely.
Wow. Then this forum is populated with a lot of douche bags. For the record, everyone who has ever complained about the lack of cruise control or the cheap plastic interior in the Evo is a douche bag, as is everyone who has owned (or wants to own) an Infiniti G35, BMW M3, Cadillac CTS-V, etc.
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