No, I made the mistake of trusting the dealer...sorry for being trusting...we are not all perfect like you...

 

I am not going into this again...

1.) Driving on the highway for almost an entire event and taking a few laps around a track should not hurt a car like this. I was NOT doing some 24 hour track enduro, so get real. Plus, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW I DROVE!!

2.) I did NOT break my car...you do not even know what you are talking about, so until you do, be quiet.

3.) You do not own the car, did not watch all the videos the dealer makes you watch promoting the driving aggressively, and did not sit there and accidentally trust a dealers word. But since you must be the guy that ALWAYS reads EVERY WORD of EVERY document, contract, and warranty ever put it front of you, you would not make that same mistake.

I am not explaining this to everyone again, since most people are so damn closed minded that you just spout off without imagining if it was YOUR car, and YOU were told what I was....but again...everyone else is perfect, so what should I expect. Since none of your EVER speed, or EVER do anything you are not supposed to do.

 

wow, glad to see this thread blowing up like this.. i heard it from a prominent mouth, that as for the midwest, they WILL NOT allow ANY more tranny's to be replaced, nor clutches. i am writing many many letters to every mitsu rep. and the president of mitsu of america. i have all their names and addresses. i will also be writing a separate letter to any newspaper i can. if you would like to send one in your area, pm me and i will send you a copy. i want to start a list of evo owners that do not agree with this, and will not stand for their crap. i will start it out at 1. then you all write your name down and put the next highest number next to it... and so on.

1. Andy V.

 

p.s. would this make a good sticky, or maybe adjoin it to the "boy cott" list of dealers who do not replace clutches/trannys?

 

I'm gonna make a prediction.
I have this funny gut feeling this will somehow end up connecting all the way back to the original decelleration noise. Numerous EVO's made the same exact noise...which DEFINITELY did not sound normal, even though we were told was.
I always felt the noise was coming out of the clutch assembly area. Just possibly...maybe the decel noise was caused by a defective pressure plate which is now causing all these clutch discs to wear out pre-maturaly.

Maybe Mitsu put a stop on tranny/clutches, because they now know theres an issue and by replacing the clutch/tranny with the same parts, will just result in the same problem again.

Have faith guys...I think Mitsu will come through for us.
They screwed up once and redeemed themselves. They can't afford to make that mistake again as a company.

 

As time goes on we will see how wide spread the "problems" are. Both myself and spyder have the decel noise, I have a january 03 build date on mine. I have ridden in another one from the same dealer with the decel noise. The shop manager told me he thinks I'm (we) are on to something with the clutch assembly being the source of the decel noise some of us have.

I don't wanna here **** about awd blah blah blah, when a dsm tech that has worked on plenty of awd dsm's says the tranny is loud as hell I'll take his word over someone that has not ridden in my car.

Like I said, as time goes on we will see what shakes out. If things get too bad we can always rally together and get the automotive press involved, I think that would do more than legal action if it came down to it.

Mitsu is a big company, big companies are slow to respond sometimes, thats the nature of a big company, not saying it's good or bad. And until they know the ins and outs of some of these issues I don't think they will say anything and that may be why the techline folks seem to think every problem a dealer calls in about is "normal and expected behavior"

I only hope that mitsu will get everything sorted out and find some way to compensate those that are beta testing there cars for them.

 

Sue em man. IF they can stamp your warranty they can unstamp your warranty. I read your story in your original post and I think you have a valid case, but I'm not a lawyer. Cal the DMV, call an attorney, call the car mags. More than likely that was a regional rep that stamped it, I'm sure his boss can unstamp it.

I almost forgot to add my favorite quote from a service manager about the evo when I complained abou the decel noise: "What do you expect, you bought a race car" I said: "um, no, I bought a street legal passenger car that is sold for use on public road ways and as such I expect it to be fit for that purpose" Next time I here that I'm gonna ask them "well If I bought a race car then I can go race it without loosing my warranty right" just to shut them up.

 

i am not an evo owner yet... but i will support you guys any way i can. And MEEYATCH1... i feel for ya. what happened to the good ol days when cars were made for racing. never heard complaints from chevy or ford... i hope mitsu gets their crap together and start to help all of you. they have been nice to me so far.. but i still don't agreed with the way they are treating this issue.

don't get me wrong.. the majority of the damn mechanics at mitsu are not to bright...could be part of the problem ya know and as far as salesman... don't trust em unless tehy are willng to give it to you in writing.

 

It's not a question of perfect.

Never trust a car dealer.

Always read the fine print.

Make sure to cover your ***.

As it is, the mistake was to mention it to them at all. I don't condemn you for it, but you don't seem to have much place to complain if you told them about it.

Go ahead and get a lawyer and see what happens...or you can take the money it'll cost and go get an aftermarket 6 puck clutch. Your call.

 

Directed toward the racer who voided the warranty:

Basic law, if you signed during your purchase, you signed on the line according to having read the warranty policy...in other words you signed for the what was written not what was said by your dimwit salesman. You lost the warranty, I think you understand that, I don't think your post was meant to jump on the band waggon of eff mitsu, but then again you have to realize its your fault you lost the warranty and you should be grateful if/when they give it back.

 

I had to sign an agreement to arbitration in lieu of litigation if any disputes over my warranty arose. Did any of you have to do this?
Mitsu covered themselves to a fair thee well by stipulating normal wear and tear. Anything outside of normal is either abuse or a maufacturing defect. The do have to prove it isn't a defect. Each State has its own laws on warranty rights and obligations. The key here is to tell the dealer that you have a contract and need to be made whole. Then you need to start calling for help, start with the State regulatory agencies and liscensing boards. Legal help is expensive but govenment agents love to throw their weight around (ask any building contractor) and they don't charge you a dime (directly), .

If you can get the labor covered tell them you will provide the new clutch disk if they can warranty the install. This is a consumable item and must only meet or exceed oem specs.

See you in the clutch install line guys. Hopefully only once.

 

I dont understand how mitsu can void your warranty if you race. Isn't it marketed as a "race" type car. They always talk about performance, and it would be illegal to really test out the performance on the streets, so where else to take it to but autox, road course, etc. I mean, bmw doesnt void warranty's on M3's if you take it to the track. I'm just confused.

 

Racing or not a stock car should be able to with stand its own abuse. Now added mods are a different story. But one would think that for a factory car it shouldn't matter how hard you drive it, things should hold up or be warrantied. Mitsu messed up really bad on this one. Take the dodge viper for instance, their factory clutches hold up dodge will still warranty out broken parts if your car has been raced. I know my brother has a viper which he beats the crap outa it. His has brought it in for warranty work and the dealer knows he races it. He has even modded it with no problems with the factory clutch. Mitsu has just dropped the ball on the Evo clutch and should do something about it. Or alteast eat the labor on installing a new one for those of us that do drive hard.

 

No not on the streets #1,thats how these cars are getting recked,I'm a salesman and told you what the warrenty does and what to do,but no one seems to listen to the one thats gives information but all salesman are crooks right!Hey thats why you don't sign anything till you READ IT! sorry guys but this whole warrenty issue is straigt up dumb.Any one who did not read that video,YES as the contract says your warrenty will be void if you don't watch that video because that lets you know what is and not covered.Why would mitsu. jeperdize there rep. like that,THEY WOULD'T,Chevy and Ford not having problems in there cars,HELLO Mustang cobra,and how do you know that there are not under the table problems that you will never know about,if the cars that much of a problem get rid of it,but i'll tell ou what,don't be surprised if mitsu.is reading this and pulls the plug on the car in the us and canada because of a few cry babies

 

hrmm i did read my paperwork, i didn't watch the video nor did i sign a disclaimer like most did, that says what your talking about, the only documents i signed where the sales docs... so now what evo_specialist.....