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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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My friend has a 2002 WRX and his clutch has been replaced twice by warranty along with his 3rd gear being replaced and 2003 lighter flywheel. Sounds to me like they are lazy asses.
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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The Subaru clutches are know issues as well... Subaru has been dodging the issue same as Mitsu. The clutch on my Forester is terrible. It reminds me of my EVO clutch, let it out too fast and fill the air with that burning clutch stench... Recently, Subaru decided to back some of the clutches... My friend had his replaced after having his WRX for close to 2 years and being denied prior...... Sound familiar? Prior to now, I think Subaru did not have a suitable replacement for the US market clutches...
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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what has your attorney said? its unreasonable for mitsubishi to assume you will wait for a court decision before having repairs done. if the judge rules in your favor mitsubishi would be responsible for the bill.

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Guy, i'v said it before and I will say it again,don't you guys thinks Mitsu is reading this thread,think about it you can take them to court but all they need to do is show some of these post,
these are not affidavits. there's no proof of anything here. considering the moderators can edit or delete anything here a judge would just say get that **** outta my face.
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Old Jul 19, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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If we are going to all do something like contact a major magazine and flame on Mitsu, I think we should do something else, first. Since I have been in the military, I have learned that you should not be part of the problem, but part of the solution. Here is my opinion and idea. Mitsubishi did us a wonderful thing by finally releasing the Evo on US soil. We should be grateful for that. Now, given that a suitable part might not be available for the poor clutch.......Well, that is where we come in. If the car came with crappy tires, wouldn't you guys demand that they gave you the tires of choice as replacement?.......Something that you were familiar with? When Ford/Firestone got burned over the Explorer roll-over incident a few years back, the people demanded that a suitable, name brand tire was issued to replace the tires that were in question. We should do the same. We all know or at least think that we know the Evo better than the Evo techs, at a bare minimum. Therefore, I think we should start making recommendations to them and work our way up. Talk around to the techs. Then have them talk to the rest of the dealership and so on and so on until the word gets back to Mitsubishi of America. You could just mention something like "Hey, since we both know (either admitted or just an understood fact) that the factory clutch is worthless, maybe you could recommend to the General Manager that they talk to Mitsubishi about doing a recall and using a vendor like Exedy as a replacement part." After we all do this, Perhaps Mitsu will at least get a few calls with our concerns. Maybe we could call Mitsu directly and mention this. We could also talk about how there is a huge discussion among Evo owners about how bad the clutch is and how we are all experiencing the same problem and we all agree on this recommendation. If we all voice our opinion and it is all roughly the same, they should take action. Maybe throw something in there like " I was thinking about letting a magazine do an article about my car, but I am embarrassed about how bad the clutch is, and the car only has 6,000 miles on it. I am a Mitsu fan, so I didn't want to show the poor quality to the rest of the world like that and ruin sales for you guys." I don't know. You guys work with it. If we all get our stories straight and make it look like we are not pissed that they released junk, but simply pissed that they are not fixing the major, easily isolated common flaws of the car, then I think we could see some progress. If we just spout off to a magazine about how we all got suckered by Mitsubishi and how we bought a $30,000 pile of crap, then that will only lead to more headaches for all of us......Who knows, it took them about a decade to bring the car to US soil -- what would it take for them to pull the plug on the whole thing? If we make the car look unwelcomed, they might just take it back with them. Then where would we be?

This is just my opinion and recommendations. It's also 1:40 in the morning here so I am kinda burnt out.

Let me know what you guys think.

Josh
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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the threat of them pulling the plug on the evo in the states is not a good reason to sugar coat the truth. as long as subaru continues production of the sti, mitsubishi will leave the evolution here to provide suitable competition. huge companies like that are all about profit and cometition. they are not going to purposely send business to them.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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*growl* they suck =/
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Sounds like a plan 90GSX-03EVO.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Roger
the threat of them pulling the plug on the evo in the states is not a good reason to sugar coat the truth. as long as subaru continues production of the sti, mitsubishi will leave the evolution here to provide suitable competition. huge companies like that are all about profit and cometition. they are not going to purposely send business to them.
I am just afraid that it will look like we are biting the hand that feeds us. Don;t get me wrong, I think they should be held fully responsible for the clutch and it's obvious faults. We'll see. The first 10,000 miles that go on my car will be roughly 90% highway, so when my clutch goes during that time, let them try to say it was due to something like excessive stop and go or something silly like that (I will be keeping receipts of all the gas fill-ups that I make for the road trips which include one round trip to Wakeman, OH -- 500 miles one way; a round trip to Norfolk, Va -- about 800 miles one way; a round trip to Chicago, IL -- about 500 miles one way, and two round trips to Gulfport, MS -- about 600 miles one way.) All of these will be made between August and November, so let's see how that clutch holds up.

Josh
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Another way is to give aftermarket clutch company a sample of the "defective clutch" and let them research it. Then file the findings to then make it public. I think will do something about it since its been proven by a clutch company that the clutch is defective. The chance of recall is greater this way or if you seek legal action you'll have a stronger case. The more company the better(ACT,Exedy etc..)

Ive read somewhere that ACT is looking into it.

Maybee will replace the tranny with a beefy 6-speed. I know this will make everyone happy.

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Man go contact your local Lawyers office. Us as the consumor should not lose any of our money because mitsu wanted to spend less money on the tranny.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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I agree with what you are saying. I think the first priority is to determine the actual cause of the problem. If anyone goes to Mitsu with speculation they won't listen. ACT is looking at the clutches and a person who already did a replacement is supposed to send his stuff off to them for testing. It will be interesting to see his findings. That conversation is going on in the clutch poll. Once it is confirmed, if possible, what is causing the clutch to fail so early then we will be able to approach Mitsu with 3rd party, independent facts that they can't refute. ACT is a large enough manufacturer to be believed as apposed to you or I telling them this is the problem. I think in time we will have more information about the clutches to make a good point to mitsubishi about the problem and see what they are willing to do.
I for one would rather do the clutch myself but am more then willing to let them pay for parts or give some type of compensation for the repair. But I know not everyone can put their own clutch in. I don't think Mitsu wants to ignore the situation completely but we don't know at this point their full knowlege of the problem as we discuss it. A lot of people have not gone back to the dealer with the problem, just a few here and there. With information like that in the poll, Mitsubishi can see a large sampling of owners and thier experiences.
This is why it is important to keep threads on topic with little bashing, etc. We want to be able to have Mitsubishi look at the thread without just thinking we are a bunch of complainers.

Edit: It is probably in the best interest for the various manufacturers to chime in on this problem with their findings cause if Mitsu was to do something about the problem, it may be easier for them to contract out the "better" replacement parts from one of these companies based on Mitsu's requirements.
Obviously this is not why ACT got involved and therefore it is nice to see them trying to develop a clutch that will address the problem and it will be resonably priced. Then again I don't think they would be too upset if Mitsu did come to them for parts.

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Yeah. I am pretty sure that some aftermarket company like Exedy or ACT will get the sale if Mitsu admits their mistake and goes with an aftermarket company to fill the recall needs. How sweet would that be for that company? Imagine knowing that you are guaranteed about 5,000 sales in the US alone for one model of clutch assembly? Talk about being in the right place at the right time! Hopefully, we don't see companies trying to cut corners and underbid each other or whatever and we end up with a recall that gives us an aftermarket clutch that is just as bad.......Then this would all come full circle.

Anyway, this post from me is just hypothetical. Who knows how it will all pan out. I am still truely concerned with the problem at hand.

Josh
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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I agree. So far I found the clutch pedal free play was improperly adjusted on my car. I posted in the poll thread about it.

I think ACT will do pretty well when they do get a product to market because they are looking to be in the $500 or so range, which is half of what else is available now.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 04:59 AM
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i wanted to get my clutch repair under warrenty... but honestly... why would you replace your OEM clutch at 5k, and want to get it replaced with another POS OEM clutch??? so it can last you another 5K?

SCREW IT... HKS here i come
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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im ganna write to quite a few magazines. my sponsor has the hookup with the inside on a few of them. i may be able to get it printed in sport compact car, or turbo.
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