Track Must-Haves
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Track Must-Haves
I ran a search on what I would've thought a common question, but came up empty. Excuse me if it's been answered, as I couldn't find it.
I'm looking for the "Must Have" list for taking the Evo to the RR track.
Items that are lacking in strength from the factory, and/or routinely break, and what needs to be done to alleviate the prob(s). I'm not looking for items that will make the thing turn faster lap times. Plenty of resources for that. I'm simply looking for things that need to be upgraded in order to have a reliable track-day car.
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I'm looking for the "Must Have" list for taking the Evo to the RR track.
Items that are lacking in strength from the factory, and/or routinely break, and what needs to be done to alleviate the prob(s). I'm not looking for items that will make the thing turn faster lap times. Plenty of resources for that. I'm simply looking for things that need to be upgraded in order to have a reliable track-day car.
TIA
Replace brake lines with SS lines (this is a reliability upgrade as the stock rubber lines have been reported to burst in rare cases, even on new cars).
Use fresh, high temp brake fluid.
Use higher temp brake pads. You don't have to go nuts if you are a beginner, but the stock ones will fade really quick.
I'd say that's the bare minimum for your first track day.
Use fresh, high temp brake fluid.
Use higher temp brake pads. You don't have to go nuts if you are a beginner, but the stock ones will fade really quick.
I'd say that's the bare minimum for your first track day.
Things you need to upgrade -
Brake pads and brake fluid - performance alignment - proper tires.
And good routine maintenence
A list of things to bring depends on if you have a support vehicle - but basic hand tools to get at the brakes (and bring your old brakes as bakups) - and maybe bleed the brakes are a good idea.
Anything else that fails is more random - you'd be hard pressed to pick what other parts to bring.
I do like the idea of spare brakes and tires - even if they are just to get home after wards.
Brake pads and brake fluid - performance alignment - proper tires.
And good routine maintenence
A list of things to bring depends on if you have a support vehicle - but basic hand tools to get at the brakes (and bring your old brakes as bakups) - and maybe bleed the brakes are a good idea.
Anything else that fails is more random - you'd be hard pressed to pick what other parts to bring.
I do like the idea of spare brakes and tires - even if they are just to get home after wards.
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Thanks guys, but I'm just looking for what is needed so the car won't brake. I've raced a 911 GT-2 (although, I maybe only have a combined total of 5 laps in an AWD car), so I'm good on knowing how to find the apex, and what support crap to bring to the track.
Stainless lines (I'll keep the stock pads for now. It'll give me something to benchmark upgraded pads against). Thanks for that one, Would've never guessed the stock lines can't handle the pressure.
Anything else?
These things are that stout in stock form?
What about brake ducting?
These cars don't have ducting stock, do they?
I've used dryer hose on a street car in the past.
You guys mentioned over heating the stock brakes. Did you have ducting?
Stainless lines (I'll keep the stock pads for now. It'll give me something to benchmark upgraded pads against). Thanks for that one, Would've never guessed the stock lines can't handle the pressure.
Anything else?
These things are that stout in stock form?
What about brake ducting?
These cars don't have ducting stock, do they?
I've used dryer hose on a street car in the past.
You guys mentioned over heating the stock brakes. Did you have ducting?
Last edited by fastkevin; Nov 26, 2007 at 09:24 AM.
some evos *kind of* do. if you happened to get the 0 lift kit package with your car when you bought it, you got a set of air cooling guides for the brakes. essentially just a few pieces of plastic, shaped in such a way to push air on the brakes at higher speeds.
Everything previously mentioned is spot on. Brakes and tires are the main issues (brake cooling needs special attention). My additional advice is to add "real" seat belts. If you don't, your arms and shoulders (especially shoulders) will be messed. Instead of focusing on steering, you’ll be holding your body in place. This makes the job a lot tougher. You won't even realize this on track, but the next day you'll be hurting.
As a mounting point (for belts), your choices range from the wimpy 4-point "club" belts that mount into the rear seat belt points (not recommended), to a harness bar (the minimum as far as I'm concerned) to a full roll cage (a bit much unless your primarily tracking the car). If you've ever seen the crash dummy video footage from 4-point "club" belts, you'll know why I don't recommend them. In many cases, the factory 3-point belts are safer.
As a mounting point (for belts), your choices range from the wimpy 4-point "club" belts that mount into the rear seat belt points (not recommended), to a harness bar (the minimum as far as I'm concerned) to a full roll cage (a bit much unless your primarily tracking the car). If you've ever seen the crash dummy video footage from 4-point "club" belts, you'll know why I don't recommend them. In many cases, the factory 3-point belts are safer.
The "factory" brake cooling air guides are useless. The AMS kit is the ONLY way to go.
http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...oducts_id=1202
http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...oducts_id=1202
The "factory" brake cooling air guides are useless. The AMS kit is the ONLY way to go.
http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...oducts_id=1202
http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...oducts_id=1202
http://www.worksevo.com/store/produc...roducts_id=285
It's all a compromise. I use my car as a daily, so these are much better for everyday use. No worrying about sucking crap in, ripping the ducting, etc. I would not leave the race ducting kits on for daily use... Seeing how I'm a lazy bastard and don't even swap pads or tires at the track, I don't want the extra hassle of dealing with brake ducting.
For pads, I'd recommend against using the stock pads as they just suck, period. You're not going to have as much fun out there!
For the SS lines, I wouldn't say that are absolutely necessary on a relativley new car, but a good upgrade. When the car/brakes has seen a fair amount of heat cycles though, it'd be good to ditch the stock lines.








