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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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i had an 06 6sd sti "very strong trans" but as far as the wrx 5sd its glass compared to evo 5sd power for power easy
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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It all depends man. How fast are you actually looking to go? What numbers are you looking to put out? 400hp is a lot easier to get in the Evo then the WRX for sure.
I have 280-300whp right now I think 400whp will keep me happy
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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I have 280-300whp right now I think 400whp will keep me happy
Just keep your car. Especially if it will be paid off soon.

I have a few good friends with STI's. 400 hp is pretty easy. Just like an EVO. It just takes the right parts and you just need to take care of the car.

The tranny will be fine for 400 just needs a clutch. Unless you plan to drive it like an A** and treat it like S**t, you will be fine.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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400 is not that hard to reach on a evo...if you spend the money rite you should be there faster then a wrx. Sell the wrx and put the money down for a evo...good luck
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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To me, the EVO is better in many regards than a WRX, handling, brakes and AWD system. I've driven my friends WRX many times, and it's pure understeer in tight corners. The EVO is very tossable, and way more fun. 400whp Is pretty easy too, a IX with meth, exhaust and tune will be close, or a IX with cams, exhaust and tune will be close also. And you haven't even touched the stock turbo.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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400 WHP is way easier in the Evo than in a WRX. Every day on here Buschur is building another 500 whp 93 oct. car. Stuff like that never happened on NASIOC when I had my wrx. I have had both and like the Evo much better. As far as the tranny goes there are people making 400whp on thier stock trannies in thier evo. It seems a lotter stonger than a stock wrx tranny atleast, they seem to grenade at the first sign of extra power.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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I'm currently pushing about 350-360whp on the MR tranny and I have had no issues. I haven't touched the turbo and I don't have an insane amount of power mods:

MBC
TP back exhaust (I have a HKS DP but its just cosmetic)
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and a tune.

No cams, no meth, no 02 housing, no true 3'' DP.

As everyone has said its harder to make the power in an WRX and costs more.

The IX is cheaper to mod and responds better to mods as well. Everyone gripes about the trannys but as mentioned previously if you take care of it and aren't trying to launch every other light and be a jack*** and just enjoy the car and have spirited drive here and there then you should have no problems.

ditch the scooby and get an evo imo
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
I'm currently pushing about 350-360whp on the MR tranny and I have had no issues. I haven't touched the turbo and I don't have an insane amount of power mods:

MBC
TP back exhaust (I have a HKS DP but its just cosmetic)
FMIC
and a tune.

No cams, no meth, no 02 housing, no true 3'' DP.

As everyone has said its harder to make the power in an WRX and costs more.

The IX is cheaper to mod and responds better to mods as well. Everyone gripes about the trannys but as mentioned previously if you take care of it and aren't trying to launch every other light and be a jack*** and just enjoy the car and have spirited drive here and there then you should have no problems.

ditch the scooby and get an evo imo
Honestly i dont think thats the case. Parts for the EVO is now cheaper and easier to come by because someone has alredy pushed the limits and now everyone is selling parts.

Like i said its just as easy in the STI. Its just there arent too many people doing it. No one has really pushed that platform to see what it can do.

A close friend will be making the same power as me with the same mods. Its just he has an STI and i have an EVO.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Drag racing? Or track?
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jean

Like i said its just as easy in the STI.
It is possible, but not as easy. Believe me, those guys are trying to push the envelope. Its a fact that they are designed differently and noone matter what, one HAS to be better than the other.

There are dozens of 500 whp 93 oct evos. how many wrxs?

Dont forget there also a 700 whp 93 oct evo also, i think thats what Al ran on 93 just for kicks.
Theres defidently NO 700whp wrx running 93 oct only
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Honestly i dont think thats the case. Parts for the EVO is now cheaper and easier to come by because someone has alredy pushed the limits and now everyone is selling parts.

Like i said its just as easy in the STI. Its just there arent too many people doing it. No one has really pushed that platform to see what it can do.

A close friend will be making the same power as me with the same mods. Its just he has an STI and i have an EVO.
I have looked at the comparison on many parts between the scooby and the evo the the scooby parts are always more exspensive.

I for one have only bought one part for my evo that was not brand new so I really didnt save too much only about $129.00 or so because I still paid top dollar. Everythign on my car is brand name as well so I didnt take any short cuts so in comparison of parts I could put togehter two list and surely the subby parts will come out to be much more. Not to mention the additonal labor involved will definately make the subby much more of a money pit than an evo and its simplicity to work on.

I'm not tryin to argue but the labor alone puts the subby on another level of $ being spent. There are plenty of people "pushing the limits" of the subbys they are constantly in import tuner, sport compact car, etc. etc...... So I dont know what your talking about...
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2highpsi
It is possible, but not as easy. Believe me, those guys are trying to push the envelope. Its a fact that they are designed differently and noone matter what, one HAS to be better than the other.

There are dozens of 500 whp 93 oct evos. how many wrxs?

Dont forget there also a 700 whp 93 oct evo also, i think thats what Al ran on 93 just for kicks.
Theres defidently NO 700whp wrx running 93 oct only
I understand but someone had to do it first. Now everyone is going to try and imatate those results.

I made 550 easily on pump and stopped cause i dont care for a pump gas record or depending on 93 octane.
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
I have looked at the comparison on many parts between the scooby and the evo the the scooby parts are always more exspensive.

I for one have only bought one part for my evo that was not brand new so I really didnt save too much only about $129.00 or so because I still paid top dollar. Everythign on my car is brand name as well so I didnt take any short cuts so in comparison of parts I could put togehter two list and surely the subby parts will come out to be much more. Not to mention the additonal labor involved will definately make the subby much more of a money pit than an evo and its simplicity to work on.

I'm not tryin to argue but the labor alone puts the subby on another level of $ being spent. There are plenty of people "pushing the limits" of the subbys they are constantly in import tuner, sport compact car, etc. etc...... So I dont know what your talking about...
I understand. But that is what i meant by everyone makes parts for the EVO and its not the same for the the Scoobies. So with less competition it will naturally be more expensive.

But if you know what you are doing its still and engine. Needs fuel, compression and spark.

Obiously the intake manifold on that car is small and could be improved. But its very possible.

For example i have a few name brand parts, which are really the parts i felt were the most important. I have everything else custom. Im not gonna pay top dollar for IC piping for example if i can get it done just as good if not better.

labor is more expensive but we work on our own cars so for us its just a matter of parts.

Tuning is also a big prob with those cars cause there arent too many options like for the EVO. They have stock ecu controls and a few other not so good options (quality of options are opinion based). So we will be using an AEM.

And the list goes on. But im telling you its not that hard.

In the op's case. Hes gonna own the car flat out, and he says he only wants 400 hp. He can get that with the money hes saving from a few months of car payments. We are on an EVO forum so its obviously going to be the car of choice in regards to its main competitor. However in his case i say stick with what you have unless you really just dont like it or want it anymore, but it seems hes making his desicion on power. Which is something he can get.

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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jean
Honestly i dont think thats the case. Parts for the EVO is now cheaper and easier to come by because someone has alredy pushed the limits and now everyone is selling parts.

Like i said its just as easy in the STI. Its just there arent too many people doing it. No one has really pushed that platform to see what it can do.

A close friend will be making the same power as me with the same mods. Its just he has an STI and i have an EVO.
I agree that parts for the EVOs are cheaper becaues 4g63 has been here for a long time.

I disagree that is just as easy to make power with an STI an a EVO. An STI with a 16G will make 300whp with a 20G 350whp with a Green 370whp with GT30R 400 and with GT35r 430whp +. Stock turbo and meth will make 330whp, the sad thing is that most STIs or WRX with 400whp not even run 11s .


Originally Posted by Jean
I understand. But that is what i meant by everyone makes parts for the EVO and its not the same for the the Scoobies. So with less competition it will naturally be more expensive.

But if you know what you are doing its still and engine. Needs fuel, compression and spark.

Obiously the intake manifold on that car is small and could be improved. But its very possible.

For example i have a few name brand parts, which are really the parts i felt were the most important. I have everything else custom. Im not gonna pay top dollar for IC piping for example if i can get it done just as good if not better.

labor is more expensive but we work on our own cars so for us its just a matter of parts.

Tuning is also a big prob with those cars cause there arent too many options like for the EVO. They have stock ecu controls and a few other not so good options (quality of options are opinion based). So we will be using an AEM.

And the list goes on. But im telling you its not that hard.

In the op's case. Hes gonna own the car flat out, and he says he only wants 400 hp. He can get that with the money hes saving from a few months of car payments. We are on an EVO forum so its obviously going to be the car of choice in regards to its main competitor. However in his case i say stick with what you have unless you really just dont like it or want it anymore, but it seems hes making his desicion on power. Which is something he can get.

The thing is that hurts me, is having to spend 5-6k in a tranny , I prefer to spend that money on a built motor .

Do you think I can get an EVO IX for 25k I even settle for a RS ?
Insurance will be expensier right?
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Old Apr 24, 2008 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by juanmedina
I agree that parts for the EVOs are cheaper becaues 4g63 has been here for a long time.

I disagree that is just as easy to make power with an STI an a EVO. An STI with a 16G will make 300whp with a 20G 350whp with a Green 370whp with GT30R 400 and with GT35r 430whp +. Stock turbo and meth will make 330whp, the sad thing is that most STIs or WRX with 400whp not even run 11s .
The thing here is that its possible. Why not just get a GT35 bolt it on and make 400 hp everyday.

The 1/4 is a diff story. There are so many variables to look at not just power.

I personally know a 10 sec STI and a potential 9 sec STI locally (to me).


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The thing is that hurts me, is having to spend 5-6k in a tranny , I prefer to spend that money on a built motor .

Do you think I can get an EVO IX for 25k I even settle for a RS ?
Insurance will be expensier right?

Why do u need to a tranny upgrade? Evo trannies are known to go also, but i think it depends on how its treated. Not so much the power increase.

I suppose you can get an EVO around that price, prob cheaper (not sure what the going rate is).
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