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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Evo wing less effective than STi? (rally)

I've noticed this before but the recent X Games brought it back to my head. We all know what the street Evo and STi wings look like. In the X Games, the STis run the very same spoilers, while the Evos this year (notably the one that flipped) ran a spoiler similar to the one Mitsu runs on their latest WRC car.



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The same can be seen in WRC. While the STi spoiler is definitely different than the street car's, it does at least seem to have some similarity. In fact, I've seen street cars with the WRC spoiler (I think Prodrive sells the entire body kit). While I've yet to see anyone running the Mitsu WRC spoiler on a street Evo (probably because it's hideous ).





Can anyone shed some light on this? Is the street STi wing more effective than ours as it pertains to rally racing? Not that it really matters, of course, but it's a bit disheartening to see Subaru kicking *** in WRC with a car that looks fairly similar to a street STi while Mitsubishi's latest car really looks nothing like the Evo.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Is that last pic a lancer non-evo? I'm looking at the 4 lugs on the rear and the style of the tail lights...
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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yeah the mitsu wrc car isn't evo...I think...
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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last one IS definately a lancer.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderOZRacer
Is that last pic a lancer non-evo? I'm looking at the 4 lugs on the rear and the style of the tail lights...
Yes.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderOZRacer
Is that last pic a lancer non-evo? I'm looking at the 4 lugs on the rear and the style of the tail lights...
He is pointing out the wing, so you guys can see it better. That car has nothing to do with the OP
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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YEs it is an EVO, all Rally cars are 4 lug, even the STI.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
YEs it is an EVO, all Rally cars are 4 lug, even the STI.
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You mean all WRC car's are 4 lug...Not ALL rally car's.
And No, The last mitsu in WRC was called the Lancer WRC. It is not an Evo.

PS for the wing, You can't use the normal trunk opening style, It needs to be converted to an up and out style.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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wow...

OT: but the mitsu rally car is based off the lancer, not the evo.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
You mean all WRC car's are 4 lug...Not ALL rally car's.
And No, The last mitsu in WRC was called the Lancer WRC. It is not an Evo.

PS for the wing, You can't use the normal trunk opening style, It needs to be converted to an up and out style.

its a base lancer body with evo internals. and yes i meant WRC.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by zbomb
PS for the wing, You can't use the normal trunk opening style, It needs to be converted to an up and out style.
ah - like the trunk on the X-games Evo.

Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
its a base lancer body with evo internals. and yes i meant WRC.
and by Evo internals - it has a 4G63 - because thats about all it has in common with an Evo.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Yeah, But it's model designation is Lancer
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dexmix
ah - like the trunk on the X-games Evo.
Yup, Part of the wing seals up against the rear windshield.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:37 AM
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I don't know if the EVO wing is less effective then th STi wing, but one thing is for sure, it's hella uglier.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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It seems like the downforce would be centered more towards the axle center line with the spoiler in that position. This would be a good advanced thread if someone much smarter than me could look into this.
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