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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:13 AM
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Trashing plans for WRX-STi

Newbie here. Just decided that the Subaru WRX STi, even if mod'd by Prodrive somewhat (full team racing mod is ~$250,000...I don't have that kinda cash ) isn't going to stand up to the Evo 7 or 8.
Learning as much as possible and intending to buy an Evo 7 or 8.
...dealer (who, I agree, probably DKS) quoted me $37,500 with non-refundable deposit of $1K for Evo 7 which he said was coming out in Dec/Jan...has 2 orders thus far (MN). I'm willing to travel to Japan to get the 8 and import it...anyone know logistics of importing?...but concerned that the Jap. versions might not take mods as well (that's the case with the Japanese WRX-STi's vs Euro-version per pro-tuner).
Anyone want to form a buyer's group for the 8's? Means we could contract with a dealer:
He/She gets LOTS of publicity and makes a LOT of $, we get the cars off the line for a better deal. Plus, we could buy them all in a state with no sales tax (several options...means saving a few thousand greenbacks!...but some states still rob you when you register it)
OK, long winded for a first blurb...sorry, but I'm a fanatic when I get on a major purchasing project.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:18 AM
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Importing has been covered repeatedly on this forum, you should first try running a search for "importing" or terms of the same nature. It's a nearly impossible process and judging from what I've read, very hard and is more than impractical.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:22 AM
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Welcome!!

I am like us about getting a new car, I have been visiting this place a lot.

I don't think any car is worth more than MRSP. I would not pay a dime over.

There are dealers that willing to sell at MRSP.

In case you did not see this:

" Street Legal Evo 7s for $36,500!!!
I just talked to Evolution Imports and found out that they will be offering a great deal on a limited number of street legal Evo 7s. The cars will be in Japanese spec (LHD RS-II models) and include the active yaw control (AYC) and active center differential (ACD). I believe these cars will also include a Motec ECU as part of the conversion process, but double check with them.

There are a total of 4 brand new Evo 7s available at $36,500 each. This includes shipping to the U.S. and conversions to make it street legal.

Serious inquiries only! Call Evolution Imports at 407-688-1324. "


Good luck!!
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:25 AM
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most of the recent quotes by dealers have been around $38k, so your's isn't far off. Whether we can trust the dealers, or if they're just saying that to ward off the "not absolutely dead set, don't care how much it costs" crowd. From the most recent rumors coming in, it's looking like will be sending the new VIIIs to the U.S. but those are just rumors, like everything everyone else has said so far.

Either way you look at it, We're gettin' a kickass car coming to the U.S. in Dec/Jan
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:26 AM
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Importing / Evo Imports (Fla)

Thanks for the tips...got word into Evo Imports...hope to hear.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:34 AM
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Any rumor you hear, at this point, is idle speculation at best. I have done so much research into this car that it is almost sickening. I have read every single post made on every single Evo bulletin board dating back 1+ years. I have spoken to 20+ dealers, talked to numerous parts manufacturers and spoken to current Evo owners in other countries about every single aspect of this car. I have read magazine articles, blurbs, statements etc. I have listened to "rumors", heard "opinions" and read "guesses". I have printed out, listed, and categorized every single viable/available modifications, along with every single report/critique I see.

And the only conclusion I have been able to come up with in regards to expections of the car is what MITSUBISHI originally released to everyone. There is so much contradiction, lies, and speculation out there that, at this point, I don't believe a damn thing until I hear it straight from the horses mouth, or see the car myself. By the way, dealers are NOT included in the proverbial "horses mouth"(unless they have THE CAR in their lot AND I can see it).

Anyhow, as far as importing is concerned, I must concur with pjal84. It doesn't seem to be practical, and for that matter most likely a waste of time and money considering we are GETTING THE CAR right here in the States.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:49 AM
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nod nod for Mordeth's post
theres not much use to plan and get overly excited or disappointed with the rumors surrounding the Evo because they are rumors until we hear word from Mitubishi Corp themselves (yes, NOT the dealer)
and petecraig, i'm not sure how u compare cars, and even tho this is a Lancer Forum, i cant say as boldly that the Sti does not stand a chance against the Evo, functionally they're quite similiar and it only comes down to personaly preference and driving style..
and i'm also not quite sure about how you said J-spec cars dun take mods as well... Us being on this side of the globe had to go thru so much trouble converting parts to fit LHD cars... oh well i'm just not a supporter for imports... its alot more money, alot more paperwork... but you should talk to fellow forum users (namely jigga's old posts) coz he imported an Evo to new york and seemed to really know his way.... good luck on everything
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 03:59 AM
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Originally posted by zeroize
i'm not sure how u compare cars, and even tho this is a Lancer Forum, i cant say as boldly that the Sti does not stand a chance against the Evo, functionally they're quite similiar and it only comes down to personaly preference and driving style...
... but you should talk to fellow forum users (namely jigga's old posts) coz he imported an Evo to new york and seemed to really know his way.... good luck on everything
Agreed to all accounts here. The STi is a viscious machine in its own right and can go fully toe to toe with the Evo. That EJ20 engine is a monster just like the 4G63. A side note on jigga's posts, make sure you READ them before you ask anymore questions or go straight to him...just easier for him since he's been through this before (answering a ton of importing questions).
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:26 AM
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all i know is if mitsu is bringing a watered down evo and its going for 38k then i'm going to be taking my business over to evolution imports...at least i know i'm getting a "real" evo.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:35 AM
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I can't believe what I'm reading The STI is way less technically advanced then the Evo. Engine/power-wise they are very similar, but that's where the similarities stop. The Evo's chassis is about 25% stiffer then the STI's. the Evo's drivetrain is far and beyond more superior (AYC/ACD)...the STI uses mechanical viscous couplings (way slower response/reaction). The Evo's turbo is more efficient-(titanium turbine, front mounted intercooler). The only thing that the STI has that the Evo doesn't is a six speed, but that comes out with the Evo VIII.
BTW- the Evo weighs at least 200 lbs lighter.

I don't see how you can say the comparison comes down to personal preference and driving style
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:42 AM
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If you check out Warrender's shootout of the two from a while back, the article reads like two different sides of a mirror...very closely resembling each other. The Evo is more raw while the STi is slightly more refined in its nature. If you find the article on the Warrender site and read it, and the end sums it up perfectly: (about the Evo) It wins. But only just.

http://www.warrender.co.uk/afc_0013.htm
Scroll to the 7th featured article.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:47 AM
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There's also rumors of a special edition STi putting out 320 ps, which could definitely hang with the Evo.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:51 AM
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Talking OK, OK!!

OK. You guys are MORE than hospitable to a dumbass-know-little who decided he wanted an Evo. Grateful to have found this place. Yeah, I can see how the fur is going to continue to fly over the STi vs Evo issue. The AYC/ACD would be great. Someone already posted on the Evo 8 US version not having those features but I have quickly learned what to do with all speculations. Anyway, I'm going to keep reading, listening, researching and learning. Thanks again to all. PS--wanna race when we get 'em?
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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more EVOlved, you got me wrong man, i'm all for the Evo, thats why i'm here chattin in a lancer forum and not an impreza forum, i know theres alot of passion here for the Evo, and somewhat resent towards the STi which has been the Evo's arch-enemy for all of the models' generations. i'm personally not an impreza specialist so i cant do a pt. to pt. comparisonand tell you exactly whos better at what, but from what i've seen and read to date, performance-wise the STi is extremely compariable to the Evos, thats all i'm saying.
so please, all you Evo lovers here, dun take this as an attack, i love the Evo over the STi too, all i'm trying to be is unbias when comparing the two..


btw the titanium turbine is in the TME, not the VII
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 04:57 AM
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anybody been watching the WRC this year? the evo is getting smoked by the sti, not accelerating as fast and also not holding the same speed in corners. too quick to dismiss the STI here
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