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Old Jul 18, 2009, 11:29 PM
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Ceramic coating and heat extraction coating of parts

I am collecting all of my parts to get coated and I wanted to make sure I get this right...

Ceramic coated parts include:
exhaust manifold
turbo hotside
o2 housing
down pipe
hot side IC piping.

Heat extraction coated parts include:
FMIC
cold side IC pipes
intake manifold



My question is -- what do you coat the cold side of the turbo? or do you not coat it? Would a ceramic coating help hold heat in and get it moving quickly to the FMIC for cooling?
Old Jul 18, 2009, 11:55 PM
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I would use heat extraction on the hotside ic piping instead. why would you want heat to stay inside the ic piping? use heat extraction on the cold side to expel the heat out faster. its called the cold side, but it gets pretty warm when your boosting.
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not with a good FMIC -- my cold side wont rise but MAYBE 20 deg over ambient..

I think that the hot side pipes should still be ceramic coated -- but its only because your trying to keep the heat in and moving.. ? you dont want it to slow down in the pipe?

I donno really -- just lookin for some... pointers.
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Do no ceramic coat the LICP; if anything, use a heat-dispersant (extraction) coating. Use the same coating on the turbo compressor housing.
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Originally Posted by S2kracka
Do no ceramic coat the LICP; if anything, use a heat-dispersant (extraction) coating. Use the same coating on the turbo compressor housing.
what he said
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Originally Posted by xRoguex
not with a good FMIC -- my cold side wont rise but MAYBE 20 deg over ambient...
The FMIC is after the turbo, so I don't see how a FMIC could affect the temp of the cold side of your turbo, lol.

You've been told by several people that heat extraction on the LICP is the right way to go, and imo their reasoning is correct.
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I am going to agree with the majority here....you dont want that heat trapped in the pipe man...you want your intake getting as cold as possible as fast as possible
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Originally Posted by dsevo
The FMIC is after the turbo, so I don't see how a FMIC could affect the temp of the cold side of your turbo, lol.

You've been told by several people that heat extraction on the LICP is the right way to go, and imo their reasoning is correct.
say the FMIC is only cooling the air to 90 degrees and another FMIC can cool the air to 80 degrees, that means the coolside will be 10 degrees cooler
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Originally Posted by EvoJoeIX
say the FMIC is only cooling the air to 90 degrees and another FMIC can cool the air to 80 degrees, that means the coolside will be 10 degrees cooler
I gotcha. For some reason I thought he was referring to the cold side of the turbo.
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The reasoning in the IC piping being ceramic coated - was because of its proximity to the motor, and the poor airflow that it would see. It would benefit more from being shielded from the heat, rather then try to dissipate the heat from within it.

This is what I was told from the coating company.
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Hmm I was thinking about this too, weird, it's going around
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I personally wouldn't bother with the IC piping. I feel that the cost/benefit ratio is poor. But if you have money to blow...
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
I personally wouldn't bother with the IC piping. I feel that the cost/benefit ratio is poor. But if you have money to blow...
Was my final result.
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Heat extraction????? is this serious, because this would be the first I have heard of this as being a coating.......You got info on this?

The point of ceramic coatings is to keep the heat in, same as exhaust wrap etc...
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Originally Posted by GTijoejoe
Heat extraction????? is this serious, because this would be the first I have heard of this as being a coating.......You got info on this?

The point of ceramic coatings is to keep the heat in, same as exhaust wrap etc...
http://www.performancecoatings.com/index2.html

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