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55 Gallon Drum question, for those who have one

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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I used my stock fuel pump too with the sock on there for filtration and hooked it up to my cars battery. It takes a good 10-15 minutes for a full tank. I would suggest finding a stock diesel fuel pump that does a lot more LPH and it will be a lot faster.

As for tuning in the injectors, I meant that yes, if you're tank isn't completely empty but that you've driven it enough with the empty light on, it will be fine if you have a little bit of gas in your tank. 1/4 gallon of pump is not a big deal when you're putting 12.5 gallons of e85 in your tank. Is it best to completely drain it? Yes, but I can almost gurantee that your tune would be the same either way you do it. E85 requires 30% more fuel than pump.

As for the drum. I got it at wal mart and made sure it had a good seal on the cap. I would also reccomend putting the drum on some 2x4's or something and not on concrete. Ethanol will soak up any water it can that's in the air, and I've seen it happen from condensation from sitting it on the ground.

Good luck, you should like the new tunes!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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As for the injectors, here's a nify chart I found a while back for e85 and injector sizing. You want to match up your injector with the max size turbo you want to get (lbs/min) and I'd add a little cushion.

This chart is assuming 43.5 base fuel pressure.

Originally Posted by DarkHorse
390cc @ 100% IDC will support 21.80 lbs/min. Global Correction: +50.00%
390cc @ 80% IDC will support 17.44 lbs/min

450cc @ 100% IDC will support 25.15 lbs/min. Global Correction: +30.00%
450cc @ 80% IDC will support 20.12 lbs/min

550cc @ 100% IDC will support 30.74 lbs/min. Global Correction: +6.36%
550cc @ 80% IDC will support 24.59 lbs/min

580cc @ 100% IDC will support 32.42 lbs/min. Global Correction: +0.86%
580cc @ 80% IDC will support 25.94 lbs/min

650cc @ 100% IDC will support 36.33 lbs/min. Global Correction: -10.00%
650cc @ 80% IDC will support 29.07 lbs/min

660cc @ 100% IDC will support 36.89 lbs/min. Global Correction: -11.36%
660cc @ 80% IDC will support 29.51 lbs/min

680cc @ 100% IDC will support 38.01 lbs/min. Global Correction: -13.97%
680cc @ 80% IDC will support 30.41 lbs/min

720cc @ 100% IDC will support 40.24 lbs/min. Global Correction: -18.75%
720cc @ 80% IDC will support 32.20 lbs/min

750cc @ 100% IDC will support 41.92 lbs/min. Global Correction: -22.00%
750cc @ 80% IDC will support 33.54 lbs/min

780cc @ 100% IDC will support 43.60 lbs/min. Global Correction: -25.00%
780cc @ 80% IDC will support 34.88 lbs/min

850cc @ 100% IDC will support 47.51 lbs/min. Global Correction: -31.18%
850cc @ 80% IDC will support 38.01 lbs/min

880cc @ 100% IDC will support 49.19 lbs/min. Global Correction: -33.52%
880cc @ 80% IDC will support 39.35 lbs/min

950cc @ 100% IDC will support 53.10 lbs/min. Global Correction: -38..42%
950cc @ 80% IDC will support 42.48 lbs/min

1000cc @ 100% IDC will support 55.89 lbs/min. Global Correction: -41.50%
1000cc @ 80% IDC will support 44.72 lbs/min

1150cc @ 100% IDC will support 64.28 lbs/min. Global Correction: -49.13%
1150cc @ 80% IDC will support 51.42 lbs/min

1200cc @ 100% IDC will support 67.07 lbs/min. Global Correction: -51.25%
1200cc @ 80% IDC will support 53.66 lbs/min

1600cc @ 100% IDC will support 89.43 lbs/min. Global Correction: -63.44%
1600cc @ 80% IDC will support 71.55 lbs/min

1850cc @ 100% IDC will support 103.41 lbs/min. Global Correction: -68.38%
1850cc @ 80% IDC will support 82.72 lbs/min"
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Ooh awesome info, thanks for that!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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east orange has a e85 station.. its called power gas. yes they dont speak good english but who cares its not like your having a conversation with them. its 2.47 there as of last wednesday. also there is a station in Hamiliton nj but im not sure of the name.. I filled up at valero yesterday in Southfields NY..right by Woodbury Commons. 2.37 there. i use 30 gal plastic drums because they are easier to move about. my drums have two 3 inch openings on the tops of them. i use a 100% plastic hand pump because i dont want anything electric or metal that could potentially generate a spark or static around my fuel but thats just me.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Good call on the pump being plastic. I was reading yesterday one one site about matching up the metal of the pump or drum wrench to the material being stored. I might get two 30 gal drums too but I might not have room for 2 drums.

I called a place thats the closest one to me, even closer than power gas in east orange, they have it for $2.29 a gallon and he said it was cool if a brought a drum to fill.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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2.29 is the lowest i have seen, might i ask the name and location of this station
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 12:06 PM
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With a plastic fuel drum you would absorb water espically with e85
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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touch down for ignorance...keep your erroneous ideas to yourself. Alcohol comes in many forms and almost always is sold or stored in a plastic containers. as long as there is an air tight seal how do you figure its going to absorb water...magic?
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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What moma dont know dont hurt....
It's easy switchin maps,,, I drain my 91 from the fuel return line drain as much 91 I can.. till car dies....
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Beware of the legalities of storing large quantities of fuel on your property, particularly with regards to the limits of your homeowners insurance policy and environmental regulations. One accident could cause you to lose everything.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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How long does that take?

excellent question. i will find out and let you know.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by milford
touch down for ignorance...keep your erroneous ideas to yourself. Alcohol comes in many forms and almost always is sold or stored in a plastic containers. as long as there is an air tight seal how do you figure its going to absorb water...magic?
How do you figure water gets into brake fluid in a plastic bottle when it sits in a cold, damp, concrete basement

Magic I suppose...

Alcohol and brake fluid are hydroscopic, and for other reasons plastic is to pourous of a material to store gasoline or race gas in.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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To answer the question, it will take less than 5 minutes with the fuel pump method.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Question now is pumps...Would I be ok getting a $30 plastic siphon pump like this bad rider?

http://www.bayteccontainers.com/hedupldrsipu.html

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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i thought you needed 'larger' injectors for e85
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Go for a goat throat pump. Ive used them for years with oxidizers/corrosives and flammables and have never had an issue.
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