55 Gallon Drum question, for those who have one
that pump will be fine, thats similar to what i am using...who cares if its not 1,000,000 gpm aerospace engineered pump..its not like every second counts when it comes to fueling your car once a week
It makes sense that this would be the case for switching from 93 to E85, but what about E85 to 93? If you have a gallon or two of E85 in the tank and fill it up with 93 and then switch to 93 tune, shouldn't it run just fine? I'm genuinely curious. Not doubting you.
I used to store quite a bit of E85 as I owned an E85 distribution service in Southern California and my recommendation for long term storage would be the Steel tanks for one reason; safety. Unless you live in a rural area, I can almost guarantee you that your county/city has rules against storing 55 gallon drums of class III flammable liquids in a residence. In the unfortunate case that you have a fire, a steel container would resist the heat much better then a plastic and I can attest to this with first hand experience having dealt with fires and fuel being stored in steel drums. Title 49 outlines some of the federal laws for flammable liquids and its transportation and I suggest that you look at it before deciding on what to buy. Also, if a fire marshal stumbles upon your setup, hopefully he/she will be nice and let you off with a warning, otherwise you can be given a rather hefty fine. There are laws that govern the amount of flammable liquids that can be stored in a residence and where in that residence they can be stored. You can usually get away with one 55 gallon drum and not run into any trouble with anybody, but anything more would be pushing it and again, I would strongly urge the use of steel storage containers. As for what steel storage drum to go with, I would recommend one with a good anti-corrosion lining as E85 is corrosive and will rust out an untreated steel drum; again, first hand experience. I hope that this information helps you purchase the right and safer steel drum.
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Ah *****, I just bought a plastic 55 gallon drum over steel based on everyone elses experience with plastic being positive, I didnt see your post till just now
it was only 40 bucks though, I could always sell it to someone and then go get a steel drum. Thanks for the info on the storage.
Question though for the plastic drums...static! How do you properly eliminate or minimize static on the barrel?
edit - after reading a few sites, apparently you dont have to worry about static building up on plastic drums like you would a steel drum. Anyone have any comments on static?
I looked into those goat throat pumps too, impressive little suckers. Pricey tho compared to a plastic hand siphon pump
it was only 40 bucks though, I could always sell it to someone and then go get a steel drum. Thanks for the info on the storage.
Question though for the plastic drums...static! How do you properly eliminate or minimize static on the barrel?
edit - after reading a few sites, apparently you dont have to worry about static building up on plastic drums like you would a steel drum. Anyone have any comments on static?
I looked into those goat throat pumps too, impressive little suckers. Pricey tho compared to a plastic hand siphon pump
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title 49.....of what? very informative post. the plastic drum will be just fine. your not storing fuel for long periods of time. its going to be going in and out of that thing faster then you will believe hahaha. your going to be fine.
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hid2.html
as long as you have the drum grounded you should be ok I personally would store it outside but that's just me.
How are you going to fill this drum up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wiUBCMdO7Y
as long as you have the drum grounded you should be ok I personally would store it outside but that's just me.
How are you going to fill this drum up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wiUBCMdO7Y
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The only bad thing I've heard about storage is condensation. E85 collects water much more than gasoline, right? I know of someone who had a drum in his garage and nearly popped his motor over about a year or so if storing the fuel in the drum, due to a significant amount of water being in his gas tank.
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Curious too about the water in the drum thing. Worries me a bit lol, I assume that I could go thru 55 gallons in a few weeks, so it wont be sitting very long. 55 gals is about 4 full tanks
I just picked up a clean plastic blue 55 gallon container that once held peroxide. I see online people use plastic barrels for filling up at the station but I can't see if people are taking the containers off the truck/trailer and are actually grounding the barrels. Any tips guys? Also, what's the legality of this?
Couple of tips online:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hid2.html
Are you guys using this cheap hand pump?
http://www.pressureparts.com/Pressure-Part-118420.aspx
Couple of tips online:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hid2.html
-Avoid the hazardous practice of leaving the portable gasoline containers in pickup trucks or cars when refueling!
-Before filling, always remove the containers from the vehicle and place them on the ground at a safe distance from the vehicle (provides path to dissipate static charge to ground).
-Touch the container with the gas dispenser nozzle before removing the container lid (provides another path to dissipate static charge to ground).
-Keep the nozzle in contact with the container inlet when filling (to dissipate static charge buildup from flow of gasoline).
-Before filling, always remove the containers from the vehicle and place them on the ground at a safe distance from the vehicle (provides path to dissipate static charge to ground).
-Touch the container with the gas dispenser nozzle before removing the container lid (provides another path to dissipate static charge to ground).
-Keep the nozzle in contact with the container inlet when filling (to dissipate static charge buildup from flow of gasoline).
Are you guys using this cheap hand pump?
http://www.pressureparts.com/Pressure-Part-118420.aspx
Where do you get E98? My "local" race gas station (1 hour) doesn't carry Ethanol and my E85 station doesn't carry anything but 85%.
I wonder how my Yz450F would respond to some corn after a rejetting.
I wonder how my Yz450F would respond to some corn after a rejetting.
Title 49 outlines some of the federal laws
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