Sorry about your brake problem, im sure ... like others have said , call up Mitsu corperate and talk to them.

I know whenver i have problems with service or something i have bought i just call up the corperate people and talk to them and they will fix it ASAP mainly because they do not want a bad rep goin around for their company. People dont buy cars b/c of what commercials look like. They buy them b/c of what their friends say the car can do and how awesome it is and how cool the company is. So if mitsu wants to sell cars, they will wanna keep people happy to sell more cars.

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Sports cars like 911 turbo, M3, EVO or any other are high maintenances cars. They are not cheap from the first place. Owners have to realize that they are buying a true racing car nothing else, they are going to require much extra attention and care and that does not mean that they will last longer. If any of you and I am sure some of you did, went to a rally race in any country and saw what they do to these cars ( STI, EVO, 206, Rally Corolla) they saw that they tare them apart to change everything even the clutch and they engine some times after each race. These cars are fast but that does not mean that they are reliable.

 

I know where you saw that quote about not being able to warp brake rotors. They are full of it. I have a stock Eclipse rotor that is so warped you can SEE the runout.

 

They are warped like ****, I dont know why??? any brake above 60 miles the wheels shake like hell.

 

The warped brakes myth article is on StopTech's website. Their explaination was that the rotor face tapers and may develop uneven spots from heavy braking or harsh pads. I think the point is that warping implies the whole rotor being out of shape, whereas StopTech is saying it's no the roto on the whole, it's the rotor's braking surface.

Anyway...have you had your alignment checked, Az? A few people with Evolutions were out of alignment from the factory.

 

i totally disagree! i dont see how a car company can sell a high performance " race car " and have them all be non-reliable....

m3's s4's evos and a couple others you named above , i dont see how thats possbile . or any other company isn't ganna throw a peice of **** out on the market just because it has speed and looks sexy .

 

Actually, the Evo that Mitsubishi sold to you is a street car. Mitsubishi cars designed for road racing or rally use are substantially different than your car - and of course they don't come with a bumper-to-bumper warranty.

It is my understanding that road racing is as hard on brakes as drag racing is on clutches.

I wonder what your warranty says about racing?

Maybe you should take your own advice and fix your brakes on your own dime so that Evo owners who have brake problems and DIDN'T race their cars can get them fixed under warranty.

 

Folks, I think we're arguing about this all wrong.

First of all, we shouldn't be arguing.

Ok, point #1: Brakes
Yes, when I lightly brake at around 80, I get wheel shake. Anywhere below that, it's fine, no pulsing. This does not mean warped rotors, nor does it mean some sort of flaw. It is a common element to brakes caused by, as someone else had said, hard braking or harsh pads, both of which are factors on the Evo. My solution is: deal with it for now, and when it is time to replace the pads, take the rotors to a shop and have them turned. That won't cost a ton.

Point #2: Clutches.
Yes, we know the stock clutches aren't made 6k launches all day. But, since I have installed the S/S clutch line and removed the restrictor valve out of the solenoid, I have noticed that clutch wear has all but vanished. I've put a good 4k miles of usually hard driving on it and do not feel that the clutch has worn any more. Yes, I do launch it on occasion and have taken it to the strip twice. My opinion is that if you wish to save your stock clutch, a purchase of this line will help out tremendously.

Point #3: Warranty
Brakes and clutches are wear items. They are usually not covered under standard warranties as my understanding goes, correct me if I'm wrong. However, I believe manufacturers will make exceptions if the failure is significantly premature. As per whether they judge it on abuse or not, who knows? They had to know that this car would be abused. You just can't throw the average Joe into a bad *** car like the Evo and expect him to not thrash on it. Basically, what I'm getting at here is that I agree that shouldn't warranty clutches and brakes. It wouldn't make any financial sense to them, and after all they are a business.

Now, if your motor or drivetrain has a problem, yes that should be covered. It seems to me that this car has been engineered to take abuse rather well, and if you have a transmission failure or VCD failure, etc... that should be covered under the warranty. If they refused, I'd make them prove that something I did out of the car's normal bounds caused the failure, and from what I hear, that isn't easy. I have friends who work at GM dealerships, and they say that they generally can't deny warranties unless abuse can be proved without a doubt (for instance dirt or mud in the transmission or transfer case of a 4x4).

So basically yes, they are going to fight us for petty things like clutches and brakes (save for extreme circumstances), many dealerships do. What we really need to worry about are the more important components being covered, and hopefull will grace us with those.

If not, then it's war, and we have a reason to be pissed.

 

elaberate more on what you got , a picture or a link to the items

 

to Senor Info, perhapes you did not read the hole post. I did say many times that I had this problem with my brakes since day one. The brakes were shaking and I took it to the dealer the very next day. They said dont worry if it gets worse will fix it. Damen I should of made them fix it then. Now they are saying I screwed them up??? . If I did I will be happy to replace the rotors on my expence but I did not. Until I do they are responsible not me. About brake warranty, pads are not under warranty but rotors are . specialy next day morning??.

About M3 and other fast cars reliablty issues you have to own a 911 or an M3 to know how much it will cost you fix one thing in them

 

You cant expect mitsu to pay for your brakes and clutch.....some dealers may warrantee it, if they do...they'll most likely replace it only once. As for Mitsu not warranteeing(sp?) any Evo's...there is no way they can do that. If someone has a legit problem with a unmodded evo, they cannot refuse, everyone got a warrantee with their car, if they take it away--we should be entitled to a refund of the warrantee cost.

And as for the clutch, i completely agree....even though you may think you are driving the car perfectly, you most likely are not. It's a wear and tear part, you force it to work harder than it should, it's gonna go. Drive your Evos fast...but be smart about it...if you want to drop your clutch at 6k to waste a 19k neon, have fun, it's not even worth it. If you are gonna beat the **** out of the car...expect to pay for it. The same can be said for any car....IMO too many ppl are buying this car because of hype and how "fast" it is. No car is meant to be abused and come out unscathed. Flame away guys, flame away.

 

blue rocket - i think that this was the smartest thing i read in the past few months. i totally agree with you but i am afraid that if we don't put on the flame suit we will both get burned

 

Agree %100 With blue rocket, best said so far. But I think the rotors should be under warranty?? What you guys think?? If not I will be more than happy to go and buy some real Endless Rotors but till then I want to see if they will change the rotors. Anyways why I am asking for warranty is because, no one is sure where the problem is???so even if i change my Rotos and my pads and still shakes I will go crazy. by the way I dont care about some flames from some Z 28 or cobra owners so I will be the firefighter, dont worry

 

How much does a stock EVO clutch from a dealer?

 

probably a lot , probably not worth it .

if your ganna replace a clutch atleast upgrade it . its your best bet.