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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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This is going to sound a bit weird but what intake and BOV setup are you running? I had the exact issue with my old eclipse, I chased it down for literally years and eventually found out it was the intake pipe I was running on the car. Some cars, for some reason or another, just do not like the resonance a metal pipe can cause in the intake and the maf can act weird.

My evo is completely fine with a metal intake, but my co-worker had very similar issues (stalling at light, etc.) when he ran an open element filter with a metal intake pipe.

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobster22388
Popping the clutch puts a lot of stress on the drivetrain with such a sudden jolt, almost the same thing as launching your car.

Have you checked out your IAC motor yet? That could possibly be the problem too.
oh wow never thought of it that way.. but i do have shep stage 3 transfer and tranny which is the iac motor? any pics or part number??

Originally Posted by xsolowx
My car has ALWAYS had this problem...We adjusted the idle up to keep it from stalling and also adjusted the air idle control valve which made it better(no stalling) but idle still drops down and catches itself then goes back to set idle speed......it is really annoying, but at this point ive learned to live with it...

Things ive tried... plugs, wires,coils,Air idle control valve(adjusted and tried a different one),cleaned PCV valve, checked vaccuum hoses, adjusted idle in tune, battery,

also it seems worse if drop is from above 3000rpm..........
yea ima look into the iac anyone have pics??

Originally Posted by Bobster22388
The valve in the throttle body and the actual electrical part of the IAC are 2 seperate parts, if you were referring to the throttle body one. I had the IAC motor go bad on my car and sometimes it would stay running, others as soon as I pushed the clutch in it would die on me.
pics on which part hes talkin about? is it something i can replace at dealer or id have to get a whole new tb?

Originally Posted by mithrandir7533
What voltage are you getting across the battery terminals when the car is running? If it's greater than 13.8 V, then the alternator is fine.
havent checked will look tomorrow -- i hope your right tho.. dont look forward to changing the alt

Originally Posted by 06MREvo
Do you have a wideband?...What's your a/f ratio at idle and what does it look like when you coming to a stop? Do you have a VTA bov that you aren't tuned for? May need to bump your idle up...
yeh i have a aem wideband and havent really looked.. ill test tomorrow and post what i see
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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also i noticed a strong gas smell when i drive and when i did boost leak test.. any ideas?
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sirsol
This is going to sound a bit weird but what intake and BOV setup are you running? I had the exact issue with my old eclipse, I chased it down for literally years and eventually found out it was the intake pipe I was running on the car. Some cars, for some reason or another, just do not like the resonance a metal pipe can cause in the intake and the maf can act weird.

My evo is completely fine with a metal intake, but my co-worker had very similar issues (stalling at light, etc.) when he ran an open element filter with a metal intake pipe.

Good luck!
well when i bought the car it had already the injen intake with maf still on it and injen uppipe with MR bov recirculated back to the intake

but now i capped off the intake recirculation part and have a buschur uppipe with tial bov and am tuned for vta but apparently i think i got tuned while i had the small pinhole leak and now that i recently changed the line all this is happeneing
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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about to check on the battery voltage.. any suggestions on what to check while im out there?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by devildevil
I have the same cams, try to set your idle at 1k and see if helps.
In Ecu setting or adjustment of the idle control valve?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Another interesting thing I came across with the idle control actuator. Evo8 ones supposedly have plastic gearing which can strip. Evo9 has metal gearing and are interchangeable
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 02:57 PM
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im guessing its the IAC motor, its on your throttle body on the drivers side, a black piece that kinda looks like a nipple is on it. check it first though, cause theyre not cheap, i called autozone and its 330.00 for a new one, so try and find one from a nine here on the forums
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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This is a strange issue indeed. You're running a tune that worked fine without stall previously. I know you fixed the pinhole leak, and that could cause your BOV to purge faster, which could lead to stall. I'll redo your tune to compensate for the sudden loss of metered air.

Normally, if the IAC fails, you'll have surging idle issues. It's pretty easy to pull and check, though.

I'll send you a new tune in a few.

Some good ideas on here. Keep 'em coming.

Additive: Before pulling the IAC to check it, try the new tune I just sent you.

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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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How would you test an IAC?
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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i pulled the IAC didnt really know what i was lookin at.. looked fine just covered in black and smelled like pure gas in there ill upload pics
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gieri002
How would you test an IAC?

test wit a meter supposely but i didnt have one
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Looks like the standard VTA stall. When your BOV wasn't responding as quickly, you weren't running into the extreme rich condition which leads into the negative fuel trims. Once that leak was fixed, you were venting much faster, and that lead to your stall. I'm fixing it.
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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I'm 99% sure it's your bov. When u had the leak, it was surging. It wouldn't fully open when you let off the pedal so your a/f didn't go to rich. Now that you fixed the leak your bov is venting properly causing your a/f to go super rich causing your car to stall. If you look at your wideband when letting off the pedal, I'm sure it's hitting the 10's or possibly 9's. I know this because I have the same problem only I didn't have a leak at first. I was running an 11 psi spring with my Tial when it called for a 10 psi. It surged with the 11 psi spring under low load/boost so it wouldn't open and run rich on decel. Now that I'm running the 10 psi it stalls like crazy. Don't know if this is good advice or not but go one spring stiffer then what you run now and I'm sure your problem will go away. I'm switching back to the 11 psi spring because it ran fine besides the surge at low boost/load.

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