I'm saving for a build and I'm curious what the most whp has been with a fully built motor, bolt ons, and etc using an FP Black on 93 pump gas? I've tried searching, but kept finding that everyone used E85 or meth. I live in New Hampshire and we don't have race fuels just 93 at the pumps. My eventual quest is for 550-600whp on 93 pump with a built motor, bolt ons, and etc. I was thinking the Black with dual maps for mid 500s on 93 maybe and close to 600 on 100 octane which we only have at the local track. The second choice I was thinking about was an hta35r on pump to reach 550-600whp on 93 pump full time and maybe 100 octane later. I plan on tracking the car now and then but I mostly take it on highway cruises and a few back roads. Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks guys!

 

Mid 500s is going to be difficult on a Black.. Most we have seen on our dyno was last week 487whp on 93 but stock motor.. Built motor can add some to that of course.. The black is most efficient at a boost level you usually cant run on a pump so I dont see 550 on pump myself on a dynojet..

Mike

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ts-487whp.html

 

here's what it takes to get 600awhp on 93 octane https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-cr-motor.html

 

I was afraid of this... Thank you for the help guys. I wish there were more shops closer to me. This is going to be a pain.

 

Just run e85 and you can have 600+ with a black setup

 

Wow the car really behaved well with 2150cc injectors on 93? The only difference I saw was that i planned on running a 2.3 liter for spool and torque as well. I'm not too concerned about revving it higher than 8k, that's plenty for around here I think.

 

How about highest whp with an hta 35r on 93 pump gas? Help me out guys I don't have access to race gas around here :-/ It sounds like the FP Black can't get to where I want and I also think people are right, 600whp on pump is crazy for a daily driver...I'd be plenty happy with 550whp on pump gas. Can that be done with an hta 35r, 2.3l, built head, bolt ons, double pumper, etc? Everytime I search everyone seems to be using meth or other race fuels not just 93 pump gas.

 

Mikey's FPBlack Evo might be close to 550whp on pump gas, his set-up is really well put and his motor is suited for a good pump gas car, Aaron is also a great tuner and already got boostedwrx to 512whp on 92oct

 

do you have the link by chance I forgot where it was?

 

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most of the gt35r variants should be able to get you to 550whp on pump (with the correct supporting mods) but you are really wasting turbo at that point...you are eating a TON of lag that you aren't going to be pushing the air to justify, but thats just my 2 cents...

 

Like I said I have but everything comes up as people using meth, e85, q16 and etc...not just pump gas.

 

Sdevo,

Whatre you using for fuel to reach 600whp on your setup? I take it you're suggesting the FP Black or something else then.

 

Mine is on e85, and my set up is currently running on wastegate boost~i.e. 25lbs which would be doable on pump (wouldn't yield the same numbers, but easily 550whp i'd think). My triple carbon is on its last legs, it was slipping on the dyno @ 6500 rpms- so peak HP wasn't close to hit yet. 550 should be doable on pump, but you are not going to be 'using' the turbo really...Are you planning on tossing in race gas for track or somethign like that? Not that I wouldn't drive my car at 25psi for a long while, its a blast, but with all the supporting mods etc, its kind of a financial waste to just run it on low boost 24/7. Much like the black the efficiency range for the turbo is beyond what you can run on pump.

and referring to an earlier post, i can personally tell you that the FIC2150s/ID2000s run amazingly well. No part throttle sputter, no driveability issues- would highly recommend them******

 

That 513 was on E85 with the Black. Magnus and O2 dump is next! Aaron did manage to pull 451whp out of my car on 94 octane pump gas with the BBK and 500whp on E85.