500 hp evo build
500 hp evo build
am looking to build a 500 whp evo would like it to serve as a daily driver if needed as well as a weekend road race car. was just wondering if there was anyone else with a similar build and if they might have any info or ideas as far as what to go with concerning parts turbos and or turbo kits. the key factor to this build is i would like to make it as reliable as i can keeping a stock tranny if need be i dont mind shying away to a slightly lower hp. the least amount of headaches i can have latter on the better. also being a road race car i wouldlike it to spool as quick as possible. this being my first evo build i could use all the help i can get. thanks and i appreciate your time!!
-as of now at 20k car has turbo back exhaust and intake other than that its stock want to stay 91 octane don't want to use anything like meth or nos.
-want to keep it a 2.0 and see full boost give or take 4000 rpm my budget is 10k.
-as of now at 20k car has turbo back exhaust and intake other than that its stock want to stay 91 octane don't want to use anything like meth or nos.
-want to keep it a 2.0 and see full boost give or take 4000 rpm my budget is 10k.
Last edited by subi_killer8; May 3, 2011 at 12:34 AM.
am looking to build a 500 whp evo would like it to serve as a daily driver if needed as well as a weekend road race car. was just wondering if there was anyone else with a similar build and if they might have any info or ideas as far as what to go with concerning parts turbos and or turbo kits. the key factor to this build is i would like to make it as reliable as i can keeping a stock tranny. the least amour of headaches i can have latter on the better. also being a road race car i wold like it to spool as quick as possible. this being my first evo build i could use all the help i can get. thanks and i appreciate your time!!
500 on a t3 framed setup is reasonably safer.
Name brand parts. Start there, finish there.
What mods are on the car now? What fuel are you going to want to run it on? Whats your budget? How fast do you really want it to start spooling and also how fast to spool to full boost?
appreciate the response. want to run 91 and right now the car at 20k miles has just and exhaust and intake. I was kind of wondering about the tranny at 500 but to be honest don't mind going a bit lower to keep the stock tranny my budget is give or take 10k.
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$10K for 500whp.
You are looking for a 35r kit out of the classifieds for
~$3000-4000
IC kit and pipes, also can find used, complete ~$1000-1500
fuel pump ~$70
clutch and fly wheel, buy brand new ~$1000 (if you don't go crazy with twin disks etc.)
wise to upgrade your TC ~$1500 max if you can't use yours and only used for a core
Injectors ~$3-400
heat studs for a precaution ~$100
Tune ~$300-600
Thats the majority that I can think of, call the rest $$$ margin
You know when you possibly blow the stock motor.
You are looking for a 35r kit out of the classifieds for
~$3000-4000
IC kit and pipes, also can find used, complete ~$1000-1500
fuel pump ~$70
clutch and fly wheel, buy brand new ~$1000 (if you don't go crazy with twin disks etc.)
wise to upgrade your TC ~$1500 max if you can't use yours and only used for a core
Injectors ~$3-400
heat studs for a precaution ~$100
Tune ~$300-600
Thats the majority that I can think of, call the rest $$$ margin
You know when you possibly blow the stock motor.
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Should put you around 450-470 reliably. Pretty decent spool (better then a T3 variant on low boost). You could probably get all that done for about 5-7k
BIgger FMIC
1000cc Injectors
Cams (GSC S2, Kelford 272) w/springs and retainers
Tubular Mani or stock Ported
Should put you around 450-470 reliably. Pretty decent spool (better then a T3 variant on low boost). You could probably get all that done for about 5-7k
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From: Raleigh, Transplanted from Toronto, Canada
FP Black
BIgger FMIC
1000cc Injectors
Cams (GSC S2, Kelford 272) w/springs and retainers
Tubular Mani or stock Ported
Should put you around 450-470 reliably. Pretty decent spool (better then a T3 variant on low boost). You could probably get all that done for about 5-7k
BIgger FMIC
1000cc Injectors
Cams (GSC S2, Kelford 272) w/springs and retainers
Tubular Mani or stock Ported
Should put you around 450-470 reliably. Pretty decent spool (better then a T3 variant on low boost). You could probably get all that done for about 5-7k
A bunch of the things you are asking for don't really make sense. You want 500 whp on 91 octane, and you want to keep a 2.0L motor, and you want "reasonable" spool. One or more of those things has to go. You can hit 500 whp on 91 octane with **** poor spool (huge *** turbo) or you can hit 500 whp with better fuel. 2.0L making 500+ whp for circuit racing is probably a bad idea. For the partial throttle/partial boost response and midrange power that you need in a circuit car you need either a smaller turbo or more displacement or both.
First off... have you ever done circuit racing at that power level? A bone stock Evo with a tune is a handful on a road course if you aren't marginally experienced, and 400+ whp is a LOT to handle. I wouldn't even remotely consider a 500 whp build for road racing unless you are already DE3-DE4/TT licensed. I'm not saying that you aren't... but a lot of people shoot for way more power than they need.
Ideally for circuit racing you will want better fuel (race gas/E85), more displacement (2.2, 2.3, 2.4L) and a turbo that has high response with that displacement. A big laggy turbo making "500 whp" on 91 octane with a 2.0L motor is going to do terribly on a road course. I would even guess that it would do worse than a stock turbo Evo.
First off... have you ever done circuit racing at that power level? A bone stock Evo with a tune is a handful on a road course if you aren't marginally experienced, and 400+ whp is a LOT to handle. I wouldn't even remotely consider a 500 whp build for road racing unless you are already DE3-DE4/TT licensed. I'm not saying that you aren't... but a lot of people shoot for way more power than they need.
Ideally for circuit racing you will want better fuel (race gas/E85), more displacement (2.2, 2.3, 2.4L) and a turbo that has high response with that displacement. A big laggy turbo making "500 whp" on 91 octane with a 2.0L motor is going to do terribly on a road course. I would even guess that it would do worse than a stock turbo Evo.
The more I think about this... it doesn't look like you have any suspension or braking upgrades. For a road race car, you should focus on safety, suspension, and braking before going for power. A big power car without those mods first is going to be slow (in lap times) and dangerous. If you have 10k to invest in making your car a badass daily driver and road race car, start with some good coilovers, stainless lines, a set of race pads for track days, sway bars etc.
Trying to take a stock block, stock trans, and stock suspension and churning out 500 whp and getting onto a road course is a good way to wreck or blow up parts.
Trying to take a stock block, stock trans, and stock suspension and churning out 500 whp and getting onto a road course is a good way to wreck or blow up parts.


