Those of you with 500+ ftlbs of torque, how did you battle torque steer?
Understand that treadwear is an indication of how sticky the tire is. So 300 treadwear = not sticky. I'm sure it's okay for a normal car or for even most cars, but you are pushing power levels way beyond what an average tire can be expected to handle. You are going to do what you want man, I just think adding that much power to a car and going cheap on the only part of your car that contacts the road is a bad choice. It seems like no expense was spared on the motor, so why go cheap on the tires...it just doesn't make sense to me is all.
nt05 is indeed similar to the star spec, but the wet traction and hydroplain resistance is not so close. (op seems to care about wet traction)
the rs3 is a way stickier tire then both star spec and nt05
...however star specs will always have a place in my heart due to the awesome slip angle and feedback from the thire
the rs3 is a way stickier tire then both star spec and nt05
...however star specs will always have a place in my heart due to the awesome slip angle and feedback from the thire
Understand that treadwear is an indication of how sticky the tire is. So 300 treadwear = not sticky. I'm sure it's okay for a normal car or for even most cars, but you are pushing power levels way beyond what an average tire can be expected to handle. You are going to do what you want man, I just think adding that much power to a car and going cheap on the only part of your car that contacts the road is a bad choice. It seems like no expense was spared on the motor, so why go cheap on the tires...it just doesn't make sense to me is all.
I've heard good things about the Conti DW's...Neal recommended them to me when I was buying tires...He also that you can't really go by the treadwear rating anymore...For the exact example you posted above...
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An rs3 will handle better although the KDW 2 will last longer, a star spec is for the most part in between the kdw2 and the rs3 in the longevity department, but the star spec and kdw2 are similar in handling characteristics. Trust me im certified in most tire manufacturers for the past 5 years.
An rs3 will handle better although the KDW 2 will last longer, a star spec is for the most part in between the kdw2 and the rs3 in the longevity department, but the star spec and kdw2 are similar in handling characteristics. Trust me im certified in most tire manufacturers for the past 5 years.
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KDWs have horrible dry traction huh... your comparing apples to apples as far as comparing the Star Specs and the KDW, not to be confused with the gforce sport KDWS which is there allseason tire and looks more like there Radial T/A. Ive sold both ive ridden in a car with both, as far as im concerned they both bite initially good into turns, but another thing to look at is longevity of a tire as well, and when there both priced about the same yet the KDW has a full 100 treadwear rating higher, meaning with right alignment rotation and balance you can get almost a full 10,000 miles more out of it. So tell me how overall, the Star Spec is a much better tire, since your the PRO and im just a nobody right. And Im assuming that your talking from experience of running both tires, or are you just talkin out of the he says she says bull$hit.
KDWs have horrible dry traction huh... your comparing apples to apples as far as comparing the Star Specs and the KDW, not to be confused with the gforce sport KDWS which is there allseason tire and looks more like there Radial T/A. Ive sold both ive ridden in a car with both, as far as im concerned they both bite initially good into turns, but another thing to look at is longevity of a tire as well, and when there both priced about the same yet the KDW has a full 100 treadwear rating higher, meaning with right alignment rotation and balance you can get almost a full 10,000 miles more out of it. So tell me how overall, the Star Spec is a much better tire, since your the PRO and im just a nobody right. And Im assuming that your talking from experience of running both tires, or are you just talkin out of the he says she says bull$hit.
I'm talking about the KDW2's not the gforce sports.. I never said the Star Spec is a overall better tire. I meant the Star Spec's is a far better tire in the dry traction aspect because that is the point of this thread afterall... TRACTION. If the OP'er has over 500ftlbs of torque, I don't think treadwear is a concern (lol).. And yes, I have owned both tires so I am talking from experience, but of course this is just my opinion.
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oh topspeed im calm, trust me life is too short to be pissed off all the time, although i have an issue with people pointin a finger at me sayin i dont know what im talkin about like im an idiot or somethin, im far from it, which if you knew me that would never be a thing ud say. Now back on track, with any person purchasing tires, treadwear is somethin of importance, unless say this car is a full on dedicated track only car, in which case a borderline DOT approved slick would be his best bet. But since it sounds like OP DDs this monster, that would be somethin id throw in the equation. That is your opinion and yes your entitled to it, you are right though in one aspect the KDW does have a little less dry traction compared to Star Spec, that is when the tires heated up on the track after multiple laps, thatll exploit the weakness in most tires out there, but imo thats pretty much in the only place that the Star Spec will be superior, and not by much depending on the suspension etc setup the car has. So agree to disagree, I enjoy discussions, as long as there kept with no negativity in the discussion. So back on track OP any of those tire suggestions will do you justice.
Good information in the thread guys. Does anyone have a link to a non-biased, scientific review and comparison of these tires we're talking about?
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People need to seriously start including tires into their mod list....not just "oh **** i need some tires"
tirerack has reviews but I don't think theres a review for the RS-3 yet.
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There's a big difference to me between spending smartly and wasting money. I don't mind spending a lot on things that are worth it. If tire A has 95% of the performance as tire B, and tire B has 60% of the life span as tire A, then my money is on tire A. I daily drive this car to work, school, everywhere. Tread life is definitely an important quality.
When I say review, I mean slalom, skid pad, and lap time comparisons on the same car. I was wondering if anyone knew if there were any recent magazine articles or something like that. I don't really trust "user reviews" because people's opinions are relative. Half of the KDW2 reviews say the car is "super loud." I would consider all three sets I owned quieter than the stock tires on my 350z. I would like to see "reputable" and "analytical" comparisons.
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When I say review, I mean slalom, skid pad, and lap time comparisons on the same car. I was wondering if anyone knew if there were any recent magazine articles or something like that. I don't really trust "user reviews" because people's opinions are relative. Half of the KDW2 reviews say the car is "super loud." I would consider all three sets I owned quieter than the stock tires on my 350z. I would like to see "reputable" and "analytical" comparisons.
-Acree