Whats with the FP Black??
Im not worried about blowing a motor right now. Nor will I be with the black. As long as my tune is spot on and I keep my tq under 400, I feel very safe. I didnt want this thread to be about me throwing me rods lol. I just asked if there was something I am missing, as to why there are so many black listed for sale. 
What has happened to the confidence in the good ole 4g63?? lol
What has happened to the confidence in the good ole 4g63?? lol
I was also curious
. Maybe people are just stepping up to a larger turbo setup
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Most of the people I've seen selling their FP Black are not happy with the lag on stock motor/pump gas. The peak numbers are good, but the area under the curve with pump gas is meh imo. I personally think its too large of a turbo for stock block / 93 octane. Miles of lag, then peaky top end... no thanks. The guys that swear by the FP Black tend to have built motors and/or run E85.
I loved my Fp Black when i was running it last season. I even loved the Red. The red got me to 10.50s on 100 octane on full weight. When i did the build i figured i would upgrade to the black. I have seen more Blacks for sale not that you mentioned it, but i honestly just think people want to upgrade and go bigger.
You will like the black alot, def will get more top end! If you ever want a Red if u change ur mind somehow. I have a buddy who will be interested in selling his low mile Fp Red with ported/coated exhaust mani!
You will like the black alot, def will get more top end! If you ever want a Red if u change ur mind somehow. I have a buddy who will be interested in selling his low mile Fp Red with ported/coated exhaust mani!
I put a black on 2 weeks ago, and was tuned yesterday. I didn't get on it until I was tuned, but I can tell you that I am completely happy with the black. It pulls really hard in the upper rpm's, unlike the stock IX turbo that falls on its face up top. I am on a stock motor, and stock head with stock cams too. I made 410whp at 26psi with a pretty conservative tune, so I feel it was a worth while upgrade. I plan on going with a LR2.4l when my stock motor goes, thats why I went straight to the black, otherwise I would have bought a green. The lag isn't bad at all with the stock motor, so with a 2.4 it will be like a stock turbo on a 2.0 practically.
Could be MAP's new line up of turbos maybe? I know we have a couple guys around my area that are selling there FP set-ups to try the new EF3 and EF4 turbos. They are suppose to be pretty baddass!
I wont mind a little bit of lag. I loved driving my old 1g with a fp3065, this was on a 2.0 as well. I dont mind the lag, as long as it makes up for it in the top end! I have s2 cams as well as ported intake and exhaust mani, this should help the black breath a little more on the 2.0, I would think.
I have s2 cams as well as ported intake and exhaust mani, this should help the black breath a little more on the 2.0, I would think.
I put a black on 2 weeks ago, and was tuned yesterday. I didn't get on it until I was tuned, but I can tell you that I am completely happy with the black. It pulls really hard in the upper rpm's, unlike the stock IX turbo that falls on its face up top. I am on a stock motor, and stock head with stock cams too. I made 410whp at 26psi with a pretty conservative tune, so I feel it was a worth while upgrade. I plan on going with a LR2.4l when my stock motor goes, thats why I went straight to the black, otherwise I would have bought a green. The lag isn't bad at all with the stock motor, so with a 2.4 it will be like a stock turbo on a 2.0 practically.
2.4 fp black for drag racing. Fp red or maybe the ef-2 ef -3 from map for street manners as well as decent power up top. I would ( am personally actually ) wait on the map results to start showing up. They also have dbb in the works it sounds like. Might not be for a while but might be worth the wait. If not then you still have your funds as well as working turbo 