The evo is a great platform. You can build these cars into a dedicated road racing vehicle then if you get tired of it turn it into a rally car

 

I say put them on the car. An evo (or any car for that matter) is only as good as it is maintained. All my friends with broken cars are the ones who put money into power instead of maintenance, and knowing how to drive it. Those mods arent too much to still stay reliable. Stay reliable on the tune instead being one of those people that think HP numbers are everything and you should be good.

But if you plan to sell........ DIBS on the clutch haha. Good luck!!

 

Thought I'd share my current thoughts which sounds like a 180 from 2 days ago, lol. I know I can't get a new OEM block installed with my current mods, I may just throw a rod all over again. The options were to go completely back to stock or do a built motor.

I'd love to do a 2.3 for the low end torque, but after reading quite a bit it seems to me that a built 2.0 has the potential to last longer than the 2.3 if maintained and not beat on heavily. There is no other car on the road (that I can afford) that I would rather have so I'll keep pushing forward with Eva and continue to put money into her.

I know the built 2.0 is typically meant for Drag Racing which I really won't be doing much of, but it will be like a stock motor that can handle more power and see higher rpm's. I'm not going to miss the torque of 2.3 if I never had it in the first place. Maybe later on in life I'll try 2.3 when she is no longer my DD. So at this point I'm still willing to give her a shot. I didn't pull the trigger yet, but pretty sure this is the path I will take.

 

Yeah, if you are replacing the motor there is no reason to not build the motor while you are paying for the labor anyway. As for 2.0L vs. 2.3L they are both great motors and have benefits and disadvantages. I know if I blow my motor I'm building a 2.3L road racing motor... but honestly I'm so happy with how much power the car makes right now that I can't see pushing the power more for a while. I'm going to put my next mod money into brakes/tires/track time for a bit. Eventually I am going to pick up a MAP o2 dump/3'' downpipe and ported exhaust manifold, but that $1000+ will go into my next trip to the track for now.

 

this: is ****ing funny.

keep the evo, they are sweet cars, or at least get something more rare.

put the parts on. is there a turbo on that list?worried about her blowing up? you've got a 4g63? fix it.?

or sell the motor to someone else and the body to me.

_isiah

 

go with the 93 and tune

 

Yea man keep your evo and put those parts in. I daily a lil miata which is still a fun car to drive 30 mpg and like 40 bucks to fill up. I wouldn't get rid of the evo cause you will regret it. I know I did, but that was with my dsm

 

e92 M3's are awesome! BUT, they're like 80,000 out the door. You think a blown evo motor is a financial hit, try buying a new M3. Haha. Do what makes you happy. Me personally, I plan on sticking it out with my evo. I bought it used, wish I would of got it new just because I like new cars but it's still good. I plan on buying a new daily driver in a few months, waiting for the new mazda 3 to come out, the new one gets 40mpg so that's gonna be my daily and my evo will be my race car. The problem I have with the evo, is that in order to get it to go really fast like I want it to, I have to make it not street legal which kind of sucks. It'd be nice if it could be fast AND pass smog haha. Ah well, it still beats my cousins DSM which wouldn't pass smog if his life depended on it. We're both big 4g63 fans though.

But ya, there are a lot of sic cars out there. The new corvettes are awesome but pretty impractical and I personally wouldn't buy a new corvette unless I had a garage to put it in. They're just too pretty to park outside. New M3s seem a little more daily driveable than a vette so you could probably get away with parking it outside but again, that's 80 grand and gets crappy gas milage. Just assess your situation and decide what works for you. Me, I live in an apartment and I need good gas milage. That means, I have to park my cars outside. So, I like the evo because it's cheap enough to where I don't have to worry about it all the time but nice enough to be proud of and fast enough to scare me. I'll buy a second car for my daily and be a happy camper. But, if I ever do have a two car garage, I guarantee there will be a vette in it. : )

Almost forgot to mention, you know how expensive it is to mod an M3? You don't wanna know. I think my buddy paid over 2500 for an exhaust on his M3 and if you want an HPF turbo kit for an M3 you're looking at over 15 grand. That's the fun part about evo's. Cheap to mod and you get great results. Plus if you go the route I've went, you can have an evo and a daily driver that gets good gas milage, two cars for the price of 1 base model vette. I'll get two cars for less than 1 M3. I don't know, to me there's something to be said for that.

 

I skipped a lot of posts, but this is to OP's first post.

Since it's not your daily, you have more options. If it does break.. you aren't completely screwed.

A few months ago I was in the same boat as you, except I had already built the motor last year. I was getting tired of the STI, and was kinda curious about what was out there. (I had a garage full of parts: 35r, injectors, front mount, etc.) I finally just got the urge one day to throw the parts on, and get tuned. Completely changed my view on the car. I fell in love with it even more, and couldn't believe I had thought about getting rid of it.

If you're bored with the car, and have the parts already - just go with it.

 

i dont know what lead you to believe this if your barely rarely going to drag race then the 2.3 or 2.4 is by far the more superior motor. the displacement is what makes it a road racing DD beast. remember the 2.3 has oil squirters as well even though they are really not required and take oil away from the most important part of the motor still. yes you can drag in a 2.3 or 2.4 some people upgrade there final drive blah blah blah but you dont have to do that to lay down times. Even if you dont want to do that 2.3 or 2.4 is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more then capable of just strictly DD duties with little to NO WOT at all. it will behave just like your 2.0 until you open it up of course thats the added benifit but does not mean you have to be speed racer everywhere. A motor of any type will last 100k if you do the proper maintence and dont beat on it 24/7 just saying

 

GinBoost, I understand what your going through. I live in Yonkers N.Y. and my enviroment isn't the most pleasant to drive in, probably worst than yours.You have already mentioned a solution to your problem though. I will explain or make your decision easier. Firstyou and I don't drag or road race (yet). I wanted to upgrade the ix turbo as well to make a street beast. Now I am asking myself whats really the point? Your creating a money pit buy doing it. Not to say an HTA Green isn't a nice dd turbo but your opening up more of a possibility to create a failure in the motor. I have all the bolt ons except a ported tb and intake mani. I am running 23 psi on the satock turbo with aftermarket wheels and a lightened flywheel for lighter rotational mass. My car honestly is plenty fast for the street and probably road racing if and when I do it. Keep it simple! Sell your Green and meth get a nice JDM rear, mild suspension set up and an upgraded brake system like ss lines and pads. Build your car for what you do with it 90%of the time. I even upgraded my radio sytem, installed fatmat on the front doors and trunk and I just adjusted my coilovers to full soft. These minor mods or upgrades made the car much more enjoyable dd it. I even thought aboutr getting another car becasue I was getting bored. What car are you gonna purchase that has AWD, isn't costly to repair, can outperform most sports cars, and is easy to work on, that doesn't cost an excuberant amount of money? This car is my hobby so enjoy the car for what you got it for. I like taking care of mine, keeping it clean, doing the maintenance, and installing all the aftermarket parts on it. You say your bored now but your gonna be even more bored without it. Eric...

 

Relax my friend. I know most people would recommend the 2.3 over the 2.0 because of the added torque which would be great for a DD.

My problem is this. There is next to no documentation of a 2.3 or 2.4 lasting more than 25,000 miles. What is your claim of 100K based on? I have found ZERO facts on that.

I wanted to go with the safest non stock setup and that's why I picked the 2.0. I'll admit that I don't know much when it comes to this stuff, but knowing the rod angle changes and puts address pressure on the side wall bothers me. Also I'm told the piston speed is much faster which is supposedly not a good thing.

One thing I learned is that on this site most people recommend going with what they have. I guess people don't want to admit that there are other good options. I decided not to jump on the bandwagon and go with my gut feeling.

If anything my choice of the 2.0 for DD can be documented for others to learn from since it doesn't seem common these days.

So in a nutshell a 2.3/2.4 seemed a bit risky to me. It's just my opinion. I'm hoping to get at least 50,000 miles out of this setup. I'd be happy.

 

Were all tempted to do this but just remember at what point is it getting to be too much. I would love to have an evo with a built motor, turbo, etc, but I would also need a dd and the cash in hand for repairs down the road. Modd with in your needs...

 

I'm sure a properly built 2.3/2.4l that is treated correctly will last more than 25k. That would be silly to say that it wouldn't. Dsm guys have been doing the 2.4 long before the evo crowd picked up on that. Look there for documentation.........

 

I don't believe anyone said it wouldn't last 25K? 100K is a different story. I appreciate your input, but I already pulled the trigger on the 2.0. It seemed to make the most sense for me.

OP did you sell all of your parts?