Well you're comparing a used first generation red to a new third generation red. Instantly throws your comparison out the window.

Ball bearing center sections are created on a mill. Sorry.

You guys act like FP is printing money, they're not. I guarantee they've spent a ton of money rebuilding turbo's under warranty and that the ball bearing program cost a lot of money initially and also costs a lot of money to upgrade each unit. Please also consider that they aren't just bolting and balancing new wheels and machining a compressor housing, they are completely modifying a custom BB center section.

I'm done here.

 

well a BRAND NEW stock evo x turbo is technically 2,000 bucks... so i would guess 2500 for an fp red isnt that bad... i know we can all buy a slightly used one on here or evox for like 400 or less. but when your talking brand spanking new turbo, not a mile on it, with the brand new BB tech in it... 2500 isnt all that bad. dont cheap out on your car.

i would complain more about the 900 dollar uicp and 600 dollar intake filter that ARC made. but then again maybe thats why they went out of business....

EDIT: ANDDDDD they're keeping it inside warranty restrictions^^^

 

bottom line here is that people ARE PAYING 2500!!! If people will gladly pay 2500 bucks why would you sell it for less and lose money?!?! lol come on guys this is business if nobody paid the 2500 they would have lowered the price, but guess what people are buying them up like candy im sure.

 

I'd have to go with the 7460R

 

I agree it costs alot, but it's NOT made in China, so you just have to deal with it.
Anything made in the US/Japan is gonna cost more, and perform better.

Precision, Garrett, and Turbonetics turbos might have their final assembly here in the US but the parts are all made in China.

FP turbo parts are from Japan (MHI) and assembled/modded here in the states.

1 X 3rd world salary + 1 X 1st world salary = decent pricing and lesser product
2 X 1st world salary = expensive pricing and better product

I was so against paying 1899 for a red but then I bought one used from my friend with the oil line kit and install kit for like 1200.

I wish I would have ponied up a long time ago this turbo spools almost like stock and I'm making 500hp with a stock motor.

The car pulls like a freight train.

 

IMO $2500 for the turbo is absolutely outrageous. However, most here don't and the demand is huge so they can price them there. I could very easily piece together a t3 kit for $2500.

 

Leave me wIth my t3 kit that will last 45,000 miles thanks garrett and pte.

Pte turbo pay 1900 buy a new turbo every year or rebuild it if you daily drive it. From what I've seen the best fp were the original red and green which you are free to use whatever oil you want.

2500 is just too much.

 

PTE turbo shouldn't have been 1900. That sounds a little high

 

I meant fp pay 1900 for a black to have it rebuilt every year now imagine 2500

 

I don't agree with your first statement because look at ARC and the like...they do not offer anything better than something fairly inexpensive such as ETS products. Look at the price of the old greens, reds, and black. Many of them have failed in a short amount of time whether it was abuse or not I would not spend the amount of money tons of members on this site have paid to have a turbo turn into a hunk of junk within 2 years. I would not mind having one but I can not justify the price for something that is going to be a paper weight in no time. These turbos are still very new and like every turbo that has been produced in the past will have problems.

Your last statement I agree 100% about the brands but these turbos definitely are for most people, power ranging from 375whp-650whp covers most people.

To the people that think just because it is American made it makes it a great product. I have had my fair share of junk made in the USA and it does not justify the price being so high just because it was made here. I wouldn't pay more on top of the price of the same product if it was made in Norway or Sweden.

So be it, but they are not the one's buying their products. Of course they will sell their products to mainly repeat customers but if FP can not attract new customers then why waste the time developing something they will not sell many of after the first boom of customers?

 

Can't tell if your being a troll or not....

Ahh it's all good, best comment I could think of at the time

Definitely won't be just 800$.



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Kind of true, but I don't think people buying ARC products are after performance as much as they are looks/status. So in that sense they are getting what they paid for.


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This thread has gotten ridiculous...comparing prices of old used out-dated turbos vs. those of brand new ones? Really?

It was a $500 price increase for the Red and Black, really not that big of a deal at all, especially considering the performance and reliability increases with ball-bearing. In journal bearing form both turbos were $2k (which included the oil feed line).

 

Look in the used for sale section.

There are few high mile fp turbo high miles meaning more than 10,000. The ones that are have severe shaft play or are units that need rebuild.

I love the performance of an fp turbo but its not durable.

 

Very true.


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