EVO IX vs. Fake Wheels = One FREAKED up CAR
Nov 15, 2011, 12:10 AM
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are they Magnesium wheels? looks like it. if so i can see that happening, i seen hair line cracks in magnesium do this before, very little warning signs. she was very lucky. Sad that it happened to such a sweet white ix, sorry about her luck.
edit, if it is magnesium and it did have a hair line crack you should be able to find it or where it started, it will be darker right at the very edge .... just from what ive seen.
edit, if it is magnesium and it did have a hair line crack you should be able to find it or where it started, it will be darker right at the very edge .... just from what ive seen.
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Nov 15, 2011, 05:36 AM
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I work for the engineering department of a large oil company and I know firsthand that casting errors can cause structural defects within the steel. Any number of things can cause those defects (and it's not worth listing here), but the point is that clearly the wheels had a casting defect that caused the wheel to fail when under stress. The point of the matter is that unless the factory has a quality program in place to check for defects before the wheel leaves the factory it's likely these sorts of things will happen.
My suggestion is to get that wheel and have it examined by a metalurgist. If there are injuries, you may have a very solid case for a lawsuit against XXR because of the reasonable expectation the wheel would be able to withstand the usage you put it under.
My suggestion is to get that wheel and have it examined by a metalurgist. If there are injuries, you may have a very solid case for a lawsuit against XXR because of the reasonable expectation the wheel would be able to withstand the usage you put it under.
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Nov 15, 2011, 12:05 PM
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There is no cast steel involved. It's all cast, cast/spun, and cast forged aluminum with finish machining. And if you know anything about metallurgy and studied it, steel is completely different from aluminum in almost every possible way. The lattice is of a completely different structure.
Steel yields and can be cycled infinitely at one half of it's modulus. Aluminum has a finite amount of cycles before it breaks, no matter what the intensity. All aluminum parts will ultimately fail. They all have tons of stress fractures after a few years of use, period.
Steel yields and can be cycled infinitely at one half of it's modulus. Aluminum has a finite amount of cycles before it breaks, no matter what the intensity. All aluminum parts will ultimately fail. They all have tons of stress fractures after a few years of use, period.
Nov 15, 2011, 02:34 PM
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complete bull****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.
Notice:
1) gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) gravel in the wheel well
3) missing lug nut
4) the wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. Fail.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
Notice:
1) gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) gravel in the wheel well
3) missing lug nut
4) the wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. Fail.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
Nov 16, 2011, 05:17 AM
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Complete BULL****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.
Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
Nov 16, 2011, 05:43 AM
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Complete BULL****. There is no evidence to put the story with the pictures.
Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
Notice:
1) Gravel in the wheel lug recesses
2) Gravel in the wheel well
3) Missing lug nut
4) The wheel is completely off axis of it's regular position
Someone is trying to pass off a wheel hit hard by a big object as wheel failure. FAIL.
Anyone who knows understands that's not what a wheel failure looks like at speed. In fact everything in the pics supports a collision.
And fixed this for you
Jul 29, 2013, 01:07 AM
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I think this is more an issue with lightweight wheels than XXRs specifically... XXRs used to be heavy *** POS and then they became aware of the fact that they needed to make their wheels lighter. Now their weight is comparable to Enkei, Kosei, Buddy Club, etc. but can obliterate if you hit a bad pothole, as is the case with those wheels.
Last edited by ever12; Jul 29, 2013 at 01:10 AM.
