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Hard Starting with E85, switched back to 93

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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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Hard Starting with E85, switched back to 93

I started to have very hard start on my car. It would crank about 5 key cycles before it would stumble and start up. Once it was running everything was fine.

The car has been acting like this for over two weeks. I've been running e85 for about 9-10 months now.

I even went out and change my fuel pump. Same result.

For sh*ts and giggles, I decided to flip my map switch and run 93.
To my surprise, it starts up first crank now.

Someone told me to switch to 93 every 3 months to clear up the system but I never believed him,LOL

Just wanted to let you guys know. But yeah, I do feel the power difference.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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In colder climate, it might need to add more fuel at start up.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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E85 cold starting can be a PITA. I usually run 92 when not racing because of it.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Like San Diego cold temps or NYC cold?
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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When running a e85 you need re tune the ecu , adding more fule on the start sqens and a smal egnition change , and you will be good to go

max 1hrs jobb fore a good tuner to make this done
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Quick question... how far can you get on a tank of e85 as opposed to 93? and also whats the price difference? Whats more efficient and not so harsh on the wallet? Thanks in advance.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Right now in my area at least, E85 is about the same price as 87 octane at the station that sells it (~$3/gal), which is about the price of 89 octane at the cheapest stations. My premium (91 octane) is around $3.25/gal at the cheapest stations, and yields 10-20% more mileage, so right now from a pure $/miles standpoint, gas is cheaper. Come the first of the year when $.45/gallon tax credit expires on e85, the choice will be pretty clear. It will still be cheap race fuel, but it won't be the obvious choice for everyday use it has been.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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I wish e85 was available near me.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastone_evo6
When running a e85 you need re tune the ecu , adding more fule on the start sqens and a smal egnition change , and you will be good to go

max 1hrs jobb fore a good tuner to make this done
I have dual maps dude.

Originally Posted by sKeMoNe
Quick question... how far can you get on a tank of e85 as opposed to 93? and also whats the price difference? Whats more efficient and not so harsh on the wallet? Thanks in advance.
For me and my highway driving E85($3.10/gal/NY) 225-250 miles a tank.
93($3.60gal/NJ) 300-330 miles a tank.
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Old Nov 28, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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It's just your cold start enrichment. Needs more fuel in that area
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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iphone has an app for anyone running E85 gives you locations on where to get it.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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I had this same issue on my stock motor, car really just didn't want to start on E85 below 45F. New motor has no issues with it, pops over like it was meant to be, the coldest we've had so far here is 21F, and it went off without a hitch.

My battery is getting weak though, I think it's time to upgrade that before the temps really dip.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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Mine usually starts at the second try, I got map switch too.
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