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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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suger in gas tank?

Someone put suger in my tank what would i need to replace? any help would be appreciated..
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:15 PM
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Well do how do you know? Have you already started it? Or happen to find a clue before hand?

Also I use to have a speed3 Was your stock?
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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yea you didnt provide much info but heres the basic run down. regardless you are going to have to drop the tank and get it cleaned out(heat tank would probably be the best if you can find someone with a big enough tank) if not use a alot of simple green and hook up a pressure washer to the hot water from your washer(if you have a hook up for one). im pretty sure i am missing some things but you should the the jist of it.

if you did not try to start car.
-fuel filter

if you tried to start the car
-fuel filter and pump
-fuel hardlines will need to be cleaned out and the rubber parts you might as well just replace
-injectors sent to get cleaned and tested(about 32.50 a pop from fuelinjectorclinic)
-clean out the fuel rail
-possibly pull the head just to see if any of the sugar crystalized on the piston surface.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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^ do this if you started it.. Otherwise I would drop the gas tank and clean it.. With the correct gas tank rinse/ cleaner. Then kill said suger pourer
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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i know i was making the list and i actualy started to get mad like it happened to me just because of the costs it would be for ME to do the work i dont even want to know what a shop would charge.


however i forgot that the gas filler/neck would also have to be cleaned out. and if you tried to run the car you are going to need a new charcoal evap system box thingy(i completely forgot the name for it)
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:20 PM
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Are our gas tanks that easy to break into? Never even put a thought across it haha
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:27 PM
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to just swap out a fuel pump is not bad. to completely drop it is a pain if you do not have a lift. kind of scary being under a car on 4 jack stands. when i replaced the fuel pump on my wifes old 626 you have to drop the whole tank to get to the fuel pump(no hole under the back seat) i had the car up on 4 stands plus in the rear where iw as under the car i also had two jacks just in case. and i was still scared. i had my wife standing outside watching me till i got the tank out from under the car. even made her come back outside when i was putting it back. lol
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:35 PM
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sorry for the double post but if it was in your evo there is one for sale in socal evo for 100$

http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index....21.0;topicseen
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MrSquirr3l
to just swap out a fuel pump is not bad. to completely drop it is a pain if you do not have a lift. kind of scary being under a car on 4 jack stands. when i replaced the fuel pump on my wifes old 626 you have to drop the whole tank to get to the fuel pump(no hole under the back seat) i had the car up on 4 stands plus in the rear where iw as under the car i also had two jacks just in case. and i was still scared. i had my wife standing outside watching me till i got the tank out from under the car. even made her come back outside when i was putting it back. lol
Did you drain the gas tank before you dropped it? It's not that heavy, empty.
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Old Feb 25, 2013 | 10:40 PM
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it only had a 1/4 tank when the pump went out. so i didnt bother it was not that heavy even with a quarter tank. i was more worried about the jiggling to get it out. it was a 00 and the tank was still stuck even after i removed the two straps holding it in place.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 05:18 AM
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http://dsc.discovery.com/cars/top-10/car-myths/07.html

heres some food for thought.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 07:32 AM
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^ I think I saw this on Mythbusters, some time ago.. Lol
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 11:37 AM
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seems like op should be fine according to mythbusters.
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TommiM
I was going to mention Mythbusters doing something about this.


Sugar in a gas tank has been a myth for many years. People believed that putting sugar in the gas tank would dissolve the sugar in the gas, get picked up by the fuel pump, sent through the lines/rail into the motor. The high temperature from the motor would then "carmelize" the sugar and turn it into a gel. According to believers of this myth, once the sugar is in the motor, it will harden itself on the pistons/rods/bearings/cylinder wall and make the motor useless.


However. Forensics professor John Thornton from Berkley in 1994, confirmed that sugar does NOT dissolve in gasoline. Professor Thornton mixed sucrose (sugar) with gasoline and spun them in a centrifuge for a good amount of time. When he removed the undissolved particles of sugar from the centrifuge, the level was measured to determined how much of the sugar became part of the gasoline. The answer: The equivelant of less than a teaspoon of sugar per 15 gallons of gasoline.


With that being said, it will stay as a solid inside the gas tank. Sugar will do the same amount of damage as sand would (if it got to the engine). So, it's your decision on whether you want to drop the tank and clean it. Keep in mind, that most gas stations do not have adequate filtration for their gasoline. Every car has some amount of sediment in the bottom of their tanks.


In the end.... I wouldn't worry about it
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Old Feb 26, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BDecker9
I was going to mention Mythbusters doing something about this.


Sugar in a gas tank has been a myth for many years. People believed that putting sugar in the gas tank would dissolve the sugar in the gas, get picked up by the fuel pump, sent through the lines/rail into the motor. The high temperature from the motor would then "carmelize" the sugar and turn it into a gel. According to believers of this myth, once the sugar is in the motor, it will harden itself on the pistons/rods/bearings/cylinder wall and make the motor useless.


However. Forensics professor John Thornton from Berkley in 1994, confirmed that sugar does NOT dissolve in gasoline. Professor Thornton mixed sucrose (sugar) with gasoline and spun them in a centrifuge for a good amount of time. When he removed the undissolved particles of sugar from the centrifuge, the level was measured to determined how much of the sugar became part of the gasoline. The answer: The equivelant of less than a teaspoon of sugar per 15 gallons of gasoline.


With that being said, it will stay as a solid inside the gas tank. Sugar will do the same amount of damage as sand would (if it got to the engine). So, it's your decision on whether you want to drop the tank and clean it. Keep in mind, that most gas stations do not have adequate filtration for their gasoline. Every car has some amount of sediment in the bottom of their tanks.


In the end.... I wouldn't worry about it
This is the post I would go with.

1. Sugar does not dissolve in fuel.
2. Sugar being a "problem" for a car is a myth.
3. SEDIMENT like sugar running through your fuel is bad.

If I were you, I would find out how much sugar was put in the tank. If you KNOW, then decide if it's an amount worth removing.

If you do NOT know, I would probably drop the tank.

Bear in mind... don't just use a vacuum or something. Vacuums and fuel vapors are a bad idea. You would need to drop the tank, take the pump out, and wash the tank properly.

Its a pain in the ***, but it's easy to do if the tank is empty. On my Evo 5 (way back when) I dropped the tank to put in a new fuel pump before I realized there was a hole under the back seat. Those were the days before my "mechanical know how" hahaha.... omg.
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