Brand new Evo $12,500 Buy it now someone!!!
SCAM, SCAM, SCAM!!!!! 
I have seen these before.
Some one tried this crap with me when I was selling my Prelude!
I even saw a version of it for a job on hotjobs.com.
Damn, this is sick.
If you look at the Sellers other auction, that person is located in Tallahassee Florida. Seems like someone hacked this guys account.
--> I reported it to Ebay as a possible scam.
I have seen these before.
Some one tried this crap with me when I was selling my Prelude!
I even saw a version of it for a job on hotjobs.com.
Damn, this is sick.
If you look at the Sellers other auction, that person is located in Tallahassee Florida. Seems like someone hacked this guys account.
--> I reported it to Ebay as a possible scam.
Last edited by EvoG8r; Mar 1, 2004 at 03:55 PM.
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Posts: 44
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From: Seattle...Got Traction?
yeah western union wire transfer...oldest scam on ebay...they do this all the time with laptops. A good Ebay user id can be hijacked and used to list illegit goods...all it takes is one sucker to send the $
Mike
Mike
When ever I inquire on a 2001 - 2002 BMW M3 on EBAY for $20k or some ridiculously low price It never works out because it is a scam. I never get on the list and the seller usually tells me the same BS story that their in Italy or Switzerland and want me to wire money to their acct.
Ive also found recently when bidding on various vehicles that I get emails from people telling me they want to sell me their $30k vehicle for $15k and its the same BS story about them being overseas and I need to wire money to them.
This one I received the other day from someone in Tawain who wanted to sell me their Acura MDX. They never write properly either I found.
Hy there . I'have the best price and i'ofer you a Acura : MDX .If you are interested an wanth to buy contact me ASAP!!! Thanks and have a nice day.
??!
chiss80
????????,???????? eBay ?????????,?????? ????????,???? eBay ???
??????? MoneyGram ? Western Union ???????? ??????????????????,????????
????????????,?? eBay ???????
SCAM SCAM SCAM
Ive also found recently when bidding on various vehicles that I get emails from people telling me they want to sell me their $30k vehicle for $15k and its the same BS story about them being overseas and I need to wire money to them.
This one I received the other day from someone in Tawain who wanted to sell me their Acura MDX. They never write properly either I found.
Hy there . I'have the best price and i'ofer you a Acura : MDX .If you are interested an wanth to buy contact me ASAP!!! Thanks and have a nice day.
??!
chiss80
????????,???????? eBay ?????????,?????? ????????,???? eBay ???
??????? MoneyGram ? Western Union ???????? ??????????????????,????????
????????????,?? eBay ???????
SCAM SCAM SCAM
Last edited by Michael A; Mar 1, 2004 at 04:02 PM.
Guys this is a hacked eBay account. Look at the other items for sale ... $2 seashells, scarves, lampshades, ... brand new turbocharged rally vehicle - one of these things is not like the other.
I've e-mailed that person back. I told him I happened to be going on a business trip to Rome tomorrow and that I'd like to personally inspect the vehicle. If so I'll wire him the money. ;-)
This happened when I was selling my Prelude on autotrader recently. Anyway, the guy was in Holland and he wanted to send me a check for $1000 more then the value of the car to pay for the shipping. I would WU the money to the shipping company.
Bull$hit!
This happened when I was selling my Prelude on autotrader recently. Anyway, the guy was in Holland and he wanted to send me a check for $1000 more then the value of the car to pay for the shipping. I would WU the money to the shipping company.
Bull$hit!
Other examples
Dear Sir or Madam,
INFORMATION ABOUT PART-TIME JOB
We are Company in Europe specialized in B2B Internet Resources. Some of our clients established business in USA not so long ago and they are in need of our services not only in Europe, but in United States also. We do the debt seeking procedures from our European office and you will be dealing only with already arrangement payments. Most of companies prefer to cover debts by local checks, but we are unable to collect on the checks in timely manner, as the checks take up to 2 months to clear. This delay is caused by lengthily clearing process of U.S. Checks through French banks.
Our business requires fast cashflow, and therefore we are seeking a representative that can process local U.S. checks for our company. It is easier for us to pay commission to our representative in US and have the money the next day than wait for 2 months.
You will have to receive the payment from our creditor, deposit it into your account and once cleared, forward the amount of payment, less your commission and other transfer expenses, to us. You will forward the money by Western Union, which is the fastest way to send money worldwide, to one of our branches in Europe. We have branches in almost all European countries.
We expect 3-4 payments a month to be forwarded through the representative, totaling no more then $5,000.00 each.
All applicants must pass a background check, must have a bank checking account in good
standing. Also, successful applicants must sign a Representative Service Contract with us.
The representative, pursuant to the contract, will not be liable for any taxes in
the United States. You will be transferring the money received from our creditors out of
the country and therefore will not be liable for capital gains taxes. You will only be liable
for your normal income tax on the commission received.
Further in his employment with our company, the representative can take on other responsibilities
and will be considered to be hired as a permanent representative of our company in the United States.
Our beginning wage will depend on a number of transactions that the representative will
assist us in. The fee paid per transaction is US $600, plus all if any fees encountered
during the transaction. The fee is fixed at US $600, and does not depend on the size of
the transaction. We expect a minimum of 3 transactions a month. At first would like to limit
it to one transaction. When we see that everything is going fine, we will increase the number
of transactions and start normal work. There is no regular wage, the wage depends on the number
of transactions executed. The number of transactions depends on how fast and accurate you will
perform. We expect high level of communication, fast feedback and accurate situation reporting.
There are no investments required from you. If in the process of work you will encounter any
additional expenses, they will be covered by us from the checks that you will receive from our creditors.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK THROUGH cariou@altiplanointl.com
If you do not have any other questions, and you would like to apply for this position
please take the following steps:
1. Print, fill in and sign the attached contract.
2. Fax it to our USA Fax number (877) 263-1404 toll free in US, please
include any type of ID that has your photo and name. It could be your
driver's license, passport or any other ID. If you don't have them
right now, we can do the background check also by having photocopy of
your SSN card. If you don't have anything of these items on hands right now(for
example lost or waiting for replacement), then your latest phone bill
is also ok, but it must include your name and address.
3. After you have done this, please contact our Chief
Accountant/Treasurer Laurent Blanchard blanchard@altiplanointl.com.
He will arrange payment of salary for the first month of work.
--
Human Resources Dept.
Altiplano LLC
579 Villeneuve-Loubet, Cedex 06271, Paris
Tel: +33 (1) 5301-0824
Fax: +33 (1) 5301-0766
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hello Frederik,
Thanks the pics are great, I will be handling the shipping costs of the car, personally using HABO SHIPPING COMPANY based in Holland, the reason why I want to buy this car from the
states is because Americans have the best car maintenance culture and
I really need to get a car with a good history, the car will be
coming to Holland and all documents will be handed over to the
shipper.
Payment will be in form of a certified cashiers check issued
by my client, the check will be for $9000 so you will deduct the cost
for your car and transfer the balance to the shippers in Holland via
westernunion money transfer, as soon as they receive this payment
they will then come for pickup at any convenient date you provide
them with, I will be needing your FULL NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE# so
that the check can be sent to you, please I will be expecting to hear
from you soon as i'll want to finish up the transaction as soon as possible, thank you and God bless.
Thanks,
Tom....
INFORMATION ABOUT PART-TIME JOB
We are Company in Europe specialized in B2B Internet Resources. Some of our clients established business in USA not so long ago and they are in need of our services not only in Europe, but in United States also. We do the debt seeking procedures from our European office and you will be dealing only with already arrangement payments. Most of companies prefer to cover debts by local checks, but we are unable to collect on the checks in timely manner, as the checks take up to 2 months to clear. This delay is caused by lengthily clearing process of U.S. Checks through French banks.
Our business requires fast cashflow, and therefore we are seeking a representative that can process local U.S. checks for our company. It is easier for us to pay commission to our representative in US and have the money the next day than wait for 2 months.
You will have to receive the payment from our creditor, deposit it into your account and once cleared, forward the amount of payment, less your commission and other transfer expenses, to us. You will forward the money by Western Union, which is the fastest way to send money worldwide, to one of our branches in Europe. We have branches in almost all European countries.
We expect 3-4 payments a month to be forwarded through the representative, totaling no more then $5,000.00 each.
All applicants must pass a background check, must have a bank checking account in good
standing. Also, successful applicants must sign a Representative Service Contract with us.
The representative, pursuant to the contract, will not be liable for any taxes in
the United States. You will be transferring the money received from our creditors out of
the country and therefore will not be liable for capital gains taxes. You will only be liable
for your normal income tax on the commission received.
Further in his employment with our company, the representative can take on other responsibilities
and will be considered to be hired as a permanent representative of our company in the United States.
Our beginning wage will depend on a number of transactions that the representative will
assist us in. The fee paid per transaction is US $600, plus all if any fees encountered
during the transaction. The fee is fixed at US $600, and does not depend on the size of
the transaction. We expect a minimum of 3 transactions a month. At first would like to limit
it to one transaction. When we see that everything is going fine, we will increase the number
of transactions and start normal work. There is no regular wage, the wage depends on the number
of transactions executed. The number of transactions depends on how fast and accurate you will
perform. We expect high level of communication, fast feedback and accurate situation reporting.
There are no investments required from you. If in the process of work you will encounter any
additional expenses, they will be covered by us from the checks that you will receive from our creditors.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK THROUGH cariou@altiplanointl.com
If you do not have any other questions, and you would like to apply for this position
please take the following steps:
1. Print, fill in and sign the attached contract.
2. Fax it to our USA Fax number (877) 263-1404 toll free in US, please
include any type of ID that has your photo and name. It could be your
driver's license, passport or any other ID. If you don't have them
right now, we can do the background check also by having photocopy of
your SSN card. If you don't have anything of these items on hands right now(for
example lost or waiting for replacement), then your latest phone bill
is also ok, but it must include your name and address.
3. After you have done this, please contact our Chief
Accountant/Treasurer Laurent Blanchard blanchard@altiplanointl.com.
He will arrange payment of salary for the first month of work.
--
Human Resources Dept.
Altiplano LLC
579 Villeneuve-Loubet, Cedex 06271, Paris
Tel: +33 (1) 5301-0824
Fax: +33 (1) 5301-0766
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Number 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hello Frederik,
Thanks the pics are great, I will be handling the shipping costs of the car, personally using HABO SHIPPING COMPANY based in Holland, the reason why I want to buy this car from the
states is because Americans have the best car maintenance culture and
I really need to get a car with a good history, the car will be
coming to Holland and all documents will be handed over to the
shipper.
Payment will be in form of a certified cashiers check issued
by my client, the check will be for $9000 so you will deduct the cost
for your car and transfer the balance to the shippers in Holland via
westernunion money transfer, as soon as they receive this payment
they will then come for pickup at any convenient date you provide
them with, I will be needing your FULL NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE# so
that the check can be sent to you, please I will be expecting to hear
from you soon as i'll want to finish up the transaction as soon as possible, thank you and God bless.
Thanks,
Tom....
lolol, thge car also looks like it has a few mods on it also, just by looking at the pics you can see it has the alum. bezel, alum. pedals, some guages in the cubby hole, and canards. lol, this has gotta be a scam.
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 44
Likes: 0
From: Seattle...Got Traction?
i just got the deal details letter and sent this back: (turningon my firewalls)
your car and your scam are being very vividly discussed on the Evo Forums: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...962#post779962
You are obviously using a hacked ebay account. Your auction has been reported to Ebay.
You probably have no concept of this being the filth you are if you are but karma bites and someday you will lose something or someone you love.
sincerely
Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joyce Smith [mailto:accents04@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:50 PM
To: Mike Reid
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #2464082039
Hello,
First you have to know the car is available on eBay,but the bidding/buying is restricted.The reason is that I had too many problems with bidders in the past and since then I am carefully with my auctions. I think that they always like to bid but not all the time like to buy,they just play games.The auction is a buy it now one so,only one person can buy it but for that I will need a proof of his seriousity and that he is available to pay anytime.For that, you need just to be agree with my condition stated below and the car will be yours.
The buy it now price includes shipping and insurance fees.
1. SHIPMENT :
I am currently located in Italy and the car will be shipped from here with by sea with the boat to your nearest port so please tell me what is your nearest port but due to the overwhelming numbers of offers I have recieved I will ask a 999$ deposit to seal the deal.
2. PAYMENT :
I'm a serious seller with experience in this field. I'm a fair trader with a good feedback on eBay which is the proof that l have closed a lot of successful deals.
You will arrange payment through wired transfer (www.westernunion.com).
All you have to do is go to www.westernunion.com and find an local agent near you were you have to go and send the funds.
3. INSURANCE
The car will be insured at the delivery service and insured for the transport.
4. RETURN POLICY
As soon as the car arrives, you will test the car and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 7 days since the arrival date. In this case I will send you the full amount back and you will send me the car in the original crate and you don't have to pay the return shipping and insurance.
If this will be ok with you just email back with your info and tell me what info you need more about the car and the transaction and you will have it.
Sincerely hope to do the transaction.
5. In the 7 days inspection perioud you decide to buy the car send the remainig balance and i will send the car's papers.
The car has a clear title which you will recieve it along with the
car and all the car's papers, the car is in 100% working and looking
condition, no dents, no flaws, no scratches, no hidden or any kind of
damage,the car is fully paid for, no liens,the car still has 4 months
woking factory warranty trannsferable to your name, I am curently
located in Italy and the car will be shipped from here at my expenses
to a port near you or at a address at your choise.
Let me know if you wish to purchase it.
Regards!
Mike Reid wrote:
so is the car in the US? Do you have a clear title to it?
Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joyce Smith [mailto:accents04@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2464082039
Hello,
I am selling the car so cheap because the car was manufactured for the US market but since I am in Italy it doesen't meets the emission restrictions here so I can't use it or sell it here so I must get rid of it and I am practicly giving it away but I have no other choise. Shipping and insurance of the car will be on me,no extra of hidden charges and the car has a clear US title so you will have no problem with registation. The car has never been in any accidents, no scratches, dents, flaws or andy kind of damage.
Please let me know if you are intrested in this car.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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your car and your scam are being very vividly discussed on the Evo Forums: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...962#post779962
You are obviously using a hacked ebay account. Your auction has been reported to Ebay.
You probably have no concept of this being the filth you are if you are but karma bites and someday you will lose something or someone you love.
sincerely
Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joyce Smith [mailto:accents04@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:50 PM
To: Mike Reid
Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #2464082039
Hello,
First you have to know the car is available on eBay,but the bidding/buying is restricted.The reason is that I had too many problems with bidders in the past and since then I am carefully with my auctions. I think that they always like to bid but not all the time like to buy,they just play games.The auction is a buy it now one so,only one person can buy it but for that I will need a proof of his seriousity and that he is available to pay anytime.For that, you need just to be agree with my condition stated below and the car will be yours.
The buy it now price includes shipping and insurance fees.
1. SHIPMENT :
I am currently located in Italy and the car will be shipped from here with by sea with the boat to your nearest port so please tell me what is your nearest port but due to the overwhelming numbers of offers I have recieved I will ask a 999$ deposit to seal the deal.
2. PAYMENT :
I'm a serious seller with experience in this field. I'm a fair trader with a good feedback on eBay which is the proof that l have closed a lot of successful deals.
You will arrange payment through wired transfer (www.westernunion.com).
All you have to do is go to www.westernunion.com and find an local agent near you were you have to go and send the funds.
3. INSURANCE
The car will be insured at the delivery service and insured for the transport.
4. RETURN POLICY
As soon as the car arrives, you will test the car and if it does not matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 7 days since the arrival date. In this case I will send you the full amount back and you will send me the car in the original crate and you don't have to pay the return shipping and insurance.
If this will be ok with you just email back with your info and tell me what info you need more about the car and the transaction and you will have it.
Sincerely hope to do the transaction.
5. In the 7 days inspection perioud you decide to buy the car send the remainig balance and i will send the car's papers.
The car has a clear title which you will recieve it along with the
car and all the car's papers, the car is in 100% working and looking
condition, no dents, no flaws, no scratches, no hidden or any kind of
damage,the car is fully paid for, no liens,the car still has 4 months
woking factory warranty trannsferable to your name, I am curently
located in Italy and the car will be shipped from here at my expenses
to a port near you or at a address at your choise.
Let me know if you wish to purchase it.
Regards!
Mike Reid wrote:
so is the car in the US? Do you have a clear title to it?
Mike
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joyce Smith [mailto:accents04@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2464082039
Hello,
I am selling the car so cheap because the car was manufactured for the US market but since I am in Italy it doesen't meets the emission restrictions here so I can't use it or sell it here so I must get rid of it and I am practicly giving it away but I have no other choise. Shipping and insurance of the car will be on me,no extra of hidden charges and the car has a clear US title so you will have no problem with registation. The car has never been in any accidents, no scratches, dents, flaws or andy kind of damage.
Please let me know if you are intrested in this car.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Last edited by allwheelsdriven; Mar 1, 2004 at 04:25 PM.
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 247
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From: Cincinnati, OH
OK obviously a scam, but how exactly to they make their $$ in the check-cashing deal if you're cashing and clearing a check then sending some of the money; if the checks cleared isn't it your cash?? 