Hi guys,

I've ordered and received a set of; PIAA 9006 Xtreme White Plus low beam globes for my EVO IX.

(i have not opened the package yet).

In the website i had purchased it from, it had in the picture a pair of globes that did not have a coated tip like this;



I've come to realise that the website picture, most likely displayed the 9005. (which was a mistake on the vendors part.

The 9006 for low beam ended up/has a coated tip like this;




My concern is that the EVO IX has a projector style headlamp for low beam;



Now In my past experience, years ago i had come to realise that the coated tip globes do not perform or designed to be compatible with projector headlights as the light is reduced significantly. (i had a Toyota supra that had projectors and tried coated globes that look like HID but was so dim i stuck with the Oem globes)

Im pretty certain the coated tips are designed more for reflector style headlights;



which the coated tip can be used as a substitute for the reflector style globe shroud pictured on the Civic headlights.

The globes weren't expensive at $69… but I'm wondering if its worth the hassle for returning it.


let me know your thoughts guys

thanks & regards,

 

looks like those are the HID low beams look at the bottom of the headlights on the black part for the ballasts to confirm

 

The coated tip just gets rid of a hot spot. It will work with projector beams no problem.

 

should work, give it a try

 

I can confirm that with the odd globe style on the evo, a coated tip WILL reduce visibility! Other drivers can see you fine but you will be limited.

 

are you talking about the CIVIC?….
if so, i don't know what it is… all i know is that I've used the picture as a reference to describe what i was talking about… which is a "reflector" style headlight.. and the pic does just that…


it will "work"… definitely… but as i said.. it does not perform well.

simillar to HID, where it is more designed for Projector style headlights. .. it still works with Reflectors but it causes unnecessary glare etc etc.


Have you tried?…

from my experience, i had notice that with the projectors… it relies on all directions on the globe for it to emit out of the projector.

having the dark tip… within the projector (which literally appears as a tunnel shape within) the tip blocks the light to emit out of the tunnel.

reflectors work with light emitting from the side… OEM headlights you will notice a shroud covering the front to prevent the globe glaring the traffic.


yes i would imagine that "it works"… it will light up… and yes, there is a lovely tinge of blue, purple or white coming out of it… but I'm certain it would reduce emitting light by at least 30%

 

Projectors rely on light coming out of the sides as well. Projectors are just a reflector bowl with a lense and cutoff shroud at the front of them

 

similar but the globe sits in the tube… unlike the reflector lens.

Projectors do not require the front or tip to be covered like reflectors… so covering it, loses light.

i can't seem to see any aftermarket globes for 9006 (i think its AKA; HB4)

All of them have tipped. except for Osram ones.

Also i had noticed that changing a simple globe requires the whole bumper to be removed also?!?!

 

what do you mean it sits in the tube?

reflectors and projectors are the same concept. light reflects off the backplate (the shiny part) and then travels forward to light the road. the difference is that the reflector housings rely on the reflector bowl to project the light where it needs to be and the projector housings rely on a lens to focus the light and project it where it needs to be

 

Simillar but different..

That is why Reflector type are blinding with aftermarket HID conversions.

and the fact that reflector types have a shield around the tip of the globe. (which is literally what the coated tip does.)

To prevent blinding of the up coming traffic… which is not a problem with Projectors.

Projectors require an uncovered HID bulb or a plain Halogen globe…


Moving forward, I contacted PIAA and it seems that the rep agrees that the coated tips do not benefit in projector headlight.
he recommended to scrape the coating with a razor blade, that would resolve my issue with the projector lens... but will void warranty.


So have you tried replacing the Globes, because it looks like a BIG job

 

I don't think you understand the differences of projector and reflector style headlights.

Again, the reason projectors don't blind oncoming traffic is because they have a cutoff shield to prevent light from scatter up after a certain point, and then have a lens to focus the light. Reflector style lights have neither of these, light goes where ever the reflector housing tells it to go with no cutoff shield to prevent light from going too high

Sure, that little painted section on the front of the bulb will stop light from going straight forward, but nearly all projector setups have a cover in front of the bulb as you mentioned which takes care of that job.

Projectors definitely don't require a bulb with no painted cover on it. If you search google for 9006 bulbs almost every single bulb has that painted cover

 

I believe i understand the basics.. and they aren't identical.

As you said, almost all 9006 have a coated tip.

the representative at PIAA had acknowledged and mentions that to overcome the problem with a coated tip was to scratch it off and clean it with rubbing alcohol from all finger prints and debris.


You mentioned that the 9006 work for projector, yes it does.. but there is a disadvantage with the coated tip. its only BETTER with one that is not coated. thats what i mean.

like i said previously, i had tried this years ago… in in a TT Supra, and there was a significant loss of luminosity caused by the coated tip. it did look nice…

Ended up putting the stock ones back in, and when they blew… i purchased Phillips Crystal Vision which did not have a coated tip for that model.