BoneEvo9

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500 hp dbb fp red evo 9 vs evo 8 500hp ets 6266 who win?

Lol didn't think I would get this much reply to this but here is the set up.

Stock block and head on both car. The evo 9 (mine) have BR ported intake manifold, BR ported exhaust manifold DBB FP Red, muse o2 dump, map beehive spring and retainers GSC S3 cams, DC downpipe w/ cat delete Megan cat, fic blue max 1250, ets 3.5 intercooler kit , walbro 255 fuel pump.

And buddy stock block and head, hks 272, ets 6266 turbo kit and 3.5 intercooler kit, fic 1250, ebay exhaust, 255 walbro.

He making right at 504hp on a dynojet. Haven't got my tune yet but hoping to get into the 500 range with e85. Just wondering during cuz it would be nice to be side by side with him or even better, pull him lol.

slowsrt4:(

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the 500hp dbb Red because it is going to make more torque than a 500hp 6266

Viegasjuice

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What does torque matter? There going to be revved out and launch, assuming this is a drag race, but most likely he's referring to street racing, in which 6266>red

newbieEVO8

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I say red because it will achieve full boost and torque sooner and the 6266 will be playing catch up. imho

Viegasjuice

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How will it achieve "full boost sooner"? The 6266 takes less boost than the red to make the same power. 500 on a 6266 is cake

e_kobz

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I really hope this statement isn't you being serious. "What does torque matter?" Well I'll break it down for you in the simplest of terms, torque gets you moving, horsepower keeps you moving. The FP Red will spool faster thus creating more torque at the start than the 6266. This will in turn give the evo with the FP Red the ability to accelerate faster.

e_kobz

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Because the 6266 is a bigger turbo. It has a larger compressor and turbine wheel than the Red. The bigger the wheels the more pressure (higher rpm) it takes to spin them. The FP Red has a much smaller cw and tw, meaning they will spool faster.

antij0sh

Depends on the race, a road track? 1/4, a mile? Dig? Roll? Low end torque can't help you if your never at low end. And power wins at top end. So your question is meaningless with more information.

94AWDcoupe

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cant believe this is even a question.
red would destroy the 6266.
faster tq, faster respool between shifts.. and lower rpm needed to launch.

211Ratsbud

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Go with the more efficient set up regardless of specs. Everything including your turbo had a easier life at that point and will likely last longer.

e_kobz

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In this case both cars power are at 500 at the top end.

211Ratsbud

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Both cars will not have the same shaped curve that reaches 500 hp..

Given that you still have to use rpms for each gear I think there will be an advantage even in the upper end to one or the other

GTijoejoe

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Seriously, the more area under the power curves.... which ever is greater will win, its that simple... it doesn't even matter if one has a higher peak HP than the other, you're speaking about acceleration.. its science

Grimgrak

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So with your logic a gtx55 with 300hp will beat a stock turbo.
1 min mark

DagYo369

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May I suggest a pte5858 as well? For the price can't beat it and it's a great turbo! Here is the link to my graphs and car was tuned to be conservative for reliability purpose. Why you see the graph the way it is.



https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...9-pte5858.html