Now would be a good time to check your PCV valve, it does not hurt to pull it out and take a look at.

Did oil leak through the crankcase breather hose?

 

No oil leaked through there.

 

The oil recommendations are for FP Journal Bearing turbos. The DBB turbo is not affected by the oil used so long as it is getting oil and it is clean.

The pcv system is very important. I would also check the health of your engine. Excessive amounts of blow by from a built motor or a dying stock motor can cause excessive Crank case pressure.

 

Motor is at 31k miles. Everything was good. After the FP Red install, oil started leaking through the turbo pressure part.

 

I urge you to remove your turbo and return it to FP for a refund. They will find nothing wrong with it but, as I have proved through testing on a dynamic balancer, there is a issue with the design of this turbo which, IMO, causes a pressure inbalance inside the turbo and forces oil out of the compressure housing. Again, IMO, and IMO only, I feel that the action of the bearings, and bearing races, rotating inside the turbo body cause a pump like situation and, in turn, the oil pressure issue.

I went down the route of adding an crankcase pressure relief system to my car, installing a sealed catch can and two -10 fittings to the cam cover and a -12 from the catch can to the intake for suction. This did nothing to stop the oil leak. I also re-routed the oil feed from the oil filter housing to the head and tried removing the restrictor, again with no luck. In the end to stop the oil I was forced to convert my turbo to a journal bearing setup, at my expense, and haven't had a problem since.

There is some more info in the thread below including some pictures and video of me testing my BB turbo and the end result. Cheers

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...llbearing.html

 

I had the turbo for a good while already and just had it sit and wait until I bought other parts like cams, manifold, fmic, etc.. I wasn't in a rush to buy everything at once so ended up getting all the things I need now and got to installing it. I believe I bought the turbo sometime in November of 2013. Have to check the receipt for the exact date. I believe they have some 12 month warranty? But didn't think it'll just pour out oil on the first start up. have pics of the installation of the turbo and oil line and the correct oil and a video of cranking the car for the intervals needed to bleed the turbo before actually starting.

I really really hope FP covers this or works something out. I really don't see anything that would be my fault about this oil leakage.

I was really excited to see how this bb turbo would perform but now it is off the car. it was on the car for less than 24 hours. drove about 10 miles. if I can return the turbo and get a refund like you said then that would be great.

 

This is just as a thought but the issue you might have getting a refund is this. You return the turbo to FP and they take a look at it. What do they see? Nothing, because there is nothing to see. The turbo's look fine, they just leak oil because of this pressure issue. So FP look at your turbo, say nothing is wrong with it, and send it back to you. They'll probably say something like "we couldn't find anything wrong with your turbo, so you must have a crankcase pressure issue and as such it's not our problem".

You might take this onboard, you might even spend hundreds of dollars and heaps of time installing a fancy crankcase pressure relief system, like I did. You'll reinstall your turbo, and it will still leak oil like crazy, and then you'll realise you've wasted thousands of dollars on a unusable, unsellable FP turbo and, like me, you will bite the bullet and convert it to a journal bearing and that will stop the oil leak, unfortunately it will cost you some good dollars. Think of it as a lesson learnt, the lesson being...don't be an early adopter of complicated product.

I hope I'm wrong about this, maybe FP will admit there is an issue, you never know your luck.

 

problem with your theory is there are plenty of people with working bb turbos from fp that dont have the issue. how do you explain that?

 

Sorta OT, but called for: I use it, my engine hasn't blown up yet. Stock turbo.

 

EXACTLY!!!! And the people who listen to us when we give them advise fix their issue. There is not a design flaw in the turbo, they're not faulty, we can give you all the data in the world on how much crankcase pressure it takes to make our turbos as well as many others leak and can even tell you how much YOUR CHRA leaks when you send it in. The reason we can do this is because we've spend thousands of dollars researching it and building rigs to let us test cartridges. We know if you have a bad CHRA before we undo a single bolt. Yet when we ask for simple data like crankcase pressure, it's the canned "There's nothing wrong with my setup," that's not data that's conjecture and nobody can use that to troubleshoot an issue. The majority of people that have this issue don't have bad turbos, a few beat the crap out of them and broke the turbo to make it leak more, but the number of people who's received bad out of the box turbos is astronomically low.

We're here to help anyone with a problem with any of our products 5 days a week 8 hours a day we'll answer phones and e-mails. So why people feel the need to ask a forum for help before they engage us is beyond me. With the 3 people here that build turbos they have a combined experience of over 50 years. There's been the same 2-3 people building turbos here since the doors opened, NOBODY on this forum or any other shop is going to be able to help you like we can. We built it, we service it, and we can fix it.

So if you want to get to the bottom of it give us a call today and we'll take care of you.

-Michael

 

That turbos is aslo not capable of generating the thrust loads a JB Red/Black are capable of nor does it use a steal thrust bearing.

The oil recommendation sheets is strictly for Journal Bearing Reds and Blacks. Smaller turbos and Ball Bearings do not have the same oil requirements.

Thanks,

MIchael

 

Are the oil restrictors the same for the jb and bb turbos?

 

No they are different the red filter (JB) is an unrestricted .125" orifice and the black (BB) is a restricted .030" restrictor. We color coded them to make them easy to identify.

- Michael

 

hey captain dip****, the 20w-50 has more zddp than that royal purple crap.

I know the pretty yellow colors are distracting

 

^ cool story bro