IMO if your going to count this car as an evo, then you would have to grant that same thing to an evo that had replaced its engine with a V8, a GM powerglide transmission, and a ford 9inch rear end. What ground could you stand on and say that this evo is an evo but the one i described is not? I don't know where the line should be drawn, but clearly there is a line somewhere.

 

To be on the 2014 quickest/fastest Evo list on this forum it must fit these rules.

Basic rules are as follows to be on the list:
1. Must be 4G63 / 4G64 / 4B11 powered
2. Must be an AWD platform
3. Must be an Evo VII, VIII, IX, X
4. NO FULL Tube Frame Cars

I'm pretty sure the car meets all the rules.

 

In that case, what are people arguing about? Seems pretty clear cut. If people have an issue with the rules then thats where they should be focusing their attention, not on this guys record.

 

There's no official record list, but most people refer to that list on this forum.

 

So much hate, its good to see an evo that dominates at the strip and then does the same at the road course!

 

It's easy to be first when your racing in your own class by yourself.

 

I just want to make a few things clear from my end. First there is no hate. I have stated and stick to the fact I have a great respect for the accomplishment, hard work, and craftsmanship of this car and all 4g63 powered vehicles.

Lets stick to the facts . The car fits into the list on evom, I don't think anyone is questioning that.

It is a joke to call this a a ct9a chassis Evo record. To say the holinger gear box is the same as a PPG gear set in a stock evo transmission case is just plane and simple a pore argument at best. The motor in this car is turned north/south and does rear wheel drive burnouts. Call me crazy but I do not see the similarity. The list goes on and on.

Once again to the builder of this car, congrats. The motor is making some good power and the car is well managed with electronics. That is no small task. It is very impressive to have a multi purpose car that runs so well in such different classes.

I will stand my ground when I say this car does not qualify for any CT9A Evo records. The so called Evo record is simply a record judged by our selves. Its called the honor system and its pathetic to abuse it. There will be many opinions on this subject but I am willing to bet if a vote was taken most would agree this car is too far gone to hold a ct9a record.

 

Wow impressivee O:

 

The general presence in here to defame the pass is remarkable.

When anyone puts the type of investment into a car that MANY here have - much will change. There are plenty of drag evo's here and most are doing either what others already have or are basically making a car that you can (no offense) put together in a 'catalog'. We put strong value on creativity and trying out new ideas, for without that, we wouldn't progress. We would praise building an engine, replacing a turbo, tubing the front end, dogbox tranmissions, changing every bushing, bearing, nut and bolt; acid diping and seam welding the chassis, electric water pumps, tubular cross members...

Take Buschur for example - how much investment of time and money along with the frustration associated with pushing the bar has he endured in his quest to get a reliable driveline to drag the evo? The black drag car was sold long ago to DG motors after putting the domestic rear end in it and not achieving the results they hoped to chase down the old standing AMS record at the time of 8.43. Then with replacing a $5000 clutch every few track events on the bad bish - then with the automatic trans R&D and now onto, oh whats that? Flipping the orientation of the engine (just like this vehicle) to make it RWD - people love it - and they should. They should also appreciate this build as well because it embodies the shared passion which brings us all here.

Anyone with a built engine or a larger turbo did it for more reliable power - just like Simon changed out the drivetrain, to handle more power reliably. Did we all look past the 1.2 60' AND the fact that this is built for road course?

Are there unspoken rules to what we can and cannot modify to allow us to go faster?

I won't get into an argument with anyone on here about this, but wanted to share my opinion.

Can you post some pictures of the car? Haven't seen it since it was all green.

 

+1

That car is amazing to be able to go out on a road course and tear it up and then go down to the local drag strip and set some times like that is just remarkable. It is still an evo in my book, but I do understand it is highly modified and I know I would never be able to dump that kind of money or time into my CT9A to do the same. Good **** Norris, keep it up.

 

Coingratz!!!

 

This is badass. Congrats!

 

I remember the first time I saw your Evo online . . . and I thought-- why aren't any of the guys here (in the U.S.A.) doing something innovative like that? . . . the money you spend breaking gearboxes- switch things around a bit-- and make/find something that works-- the only regret is the time and money spent before getting to it... but then its about the journey right? I know I like to tinker...

its about going fast and he with the most fun wins . . .
and I think going fast is fun!
I think it would be great to come visit the U.K. sometime and see another way of doing it...I had some Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires on my car- no traction and ate through the rubber like crazy . . . I upgraded to some better tires... big whoop!

modified is modified
and fast is fast
looks like you're gettin' it done!
and huge congrats on a track and strip car in one! that's what I want someday . . .too!
Cheers for now,
Jim

 

The highlighted is the biggest thing for me. This car wasn't purpose built for just straight line as Brent's car was/is. Lots of drag cars are tube framed or have lots of modifications to panels etc. Saw the underside of one of the drag Evos posted here sometime back and that thing is pretty far away from the OEM underside. Slippery slope if you start going down that route IMO. Not getting into any argument with the local drag purists either so don't bother .

 

That is moving!