Evo_mirage22

Hey guys getting right to the point. Its going to take a lot of hard work and money but i need insight in the world of course racing/rallyx setup. i really think drag is cool but in the end it really is just going in a straight line. So what do i need to really embark on my journey? I have an evo 9 se right now with slight mods and a tune making around 400awhp. I need suspension help, like what struts/shocks do you guys that race use? Tires? strut bars? brakes? Anything really. i wanna get my car more sound again and ive heard around 500 or so awhp is a pretty good number for that kind of racing and more than what i would need as an amateur. Please help guys, I need all of you great evo racers out there!

MinusPrevious

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You will for sure get replies here, but a much higher level of track driver hang out in the competition forum. You should post / search there

Evo_mirage22

Thanks so much! i appreciate the help!!

TheBoz

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300awhp is more than enough power for road racing. Turn the power down until you know how to drive.

1. Track time, even all stock
2. Tires rs3 or 595rsr
3. Brake lines and fluid
- restack rear diff or upgrade to the 12plate
4. Track pads on stock rotors and calipers
5. Rear sway bar
6. Acd reflash
7. More track time

Now for the expensive stuff
Coil overs, Robispec or mullerized, with corner balance and race align
Bushing updates
Evox lca

Evo_mirage22

Dude thanks! im assuming you do your fair share of racing then? im just trying to figure out a lot of things about what i will need in the future. I originally was going to do a drag build because quite a few of my friends have some of the fastest all interior evos in the world for 1/4 mile. but i was like damn that would just get boring after awhile. Any other pointers you could give?

Evo_mirage22

Also my ACD is bad, should i actually spend the money to replace it or just buy a non acd tcase and delete acd? Do you know about how much life you get out of the rs3s compared to the 595rsr? what brand? I have to replace my rotors anyway due to the fact the last person that owned my evo had to replace them and didnt have the cash so he put ebay ones on that vibrate like hell so any suggestions on the best bang for your buck? Pad suggestions? Any help i really do appreciate thanks again!

kaj

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First and foremost, your thread is going to be a double edge sword. On one hand, you are going to get a lot of information. On the other, we all each have our own opinions. To make things even more difficult, you can't mix-and-match parts from everybody's builds because you may get something that doesn't work.
Second, I would definitely post this I the competition forum because there is more experience there, IMO.
We can all post our build list, but is that really going to help? LOL
If so, here's mine:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/project-cars-build-threads/726886-simple-06-evo-mr-build.html

Lastly, there is nothing in common between Rally-X and road racing. I'm not sure how you would build a car to split the difference or if you could. I guess leaving it stock would actually be best.

Evo_mirage22

i meant like road racing, and if i wanted to maybe do an autox now and then. but i wanted some opinions on things i might want to upgrade so i could have better handling and less chance of breaking parts. im doing my research with help from you guys, i just want peoples first hand knowledge with their cars instead of a website saying "we have the best thing for that, trust us!!" lol

kaj

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Even still, you will get lots of opinions.
I.E. I don't replace something unless it needs to be replaced due to a legitimate risk of failure or it breaks on me. Others believe in upgrading everything they can to prevent any chance of failure. I don't have money to throw at the car for stuff that isn't going to make me faster LOL. That and, for my cars, keeping things OEM makes them easy to replace, service, and stay reliable.

Your car won't break, assuming it's been maintained correctly. The only thing on a stock car that will fail, IMO, are brake pads and fluid. If you upgrade those, you are good to go and will have a butt load of fun. If you feel you are ready, then a good tire is a good addition and will make the car a LOT faster. That's really all our cars need, unless you decide to go the competitive route.

Once you start replacing OEM parts for upgrades, you will need to take care to be sure they complement your build. For example, tossing on a set of coilovers won't necessarily make your car faster.

The #1 thing that will make you faster is seat time.

I guess you have to ask yourself what your goals are. Are you just wanting to take your daily out and have some fun on the road course or are you going full-on Time Attack mode and go from there.

TheBoz

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Just like man is saying track time, you will get faster with just that. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

I did the same I wanted a 1/4 mile car that I could road race. The big *** turbo was the worst thing I could have done. I just cannot justify another 2500 for a new turbo when this one works.

At the end of the day it is about having fun, don't get focused on having the best stuff and the fastest car. Get your *** to the track and get a feel for your car. You will learn very quick what you need to deal with.

Order or priority
#1, safety equipment. If you cannot afford good stuff do t race you car.
#2, track time, more is better
#3, upgrades when you know why you are doing them

kaj

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These are my favorite pars of TheBoz's post. Most of us went down the mod-crazy road at one time and have learned from it LOL. It's really hard to NOT buy those expensive coilovers, NOT install the wing or splitter, NOT put on the a giant turbo because we need one meelion horsepower. I see lots of people putting stuff on their car because they were told to or read someone else did; that's not always the best way to go about it.

You would be surprised of how fun our cars are, stock (that's how I started tracking mine, so I'd have a performance baseline). Our cars are amazing from the factory. Go out there and enjoy it without having to worry about stuff breaking or needing extra maintenance. The best part is going faster in a STOCK car than the modified guys LOL. If you care about that, I mean.

All that being said, if you are ONLY worried about stuff that will keep the car in one piece, maybe I'd toss on a Kiggly HLA. Other than that, a good oil, brake pads, and fluid will work wonders. Our cars are built for this stuff.

Evo_mirage22

I love evom because of people like you guys, you genuinely try to help someone out instead of making fun of the lack of knowledge i have. Ive only owned me evo for almost two years now and have only taken it to the strip once and best time was 12.5 at like 115mph i believe. I regularly do oil changes(every 3,000) and the owner before me did trans, diff, and transfer case fluid changes every 20,000 miles. the car has a couple small issues im fixing very soon. Like im getting my trans rebuilt by dan bushcur, im pretty sure i have a bad wheel bearing in my right rear hub, and i could probably use a retune. Should i lower my awhp though? You said 300awhp is more than enough, so do you think a little under 400awhp is too much for a newbie or should i just try to feel it out?

kaj

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Well.. If the car has big power, it's kinda hard to learn because you are working so hard to not kill yourself LOL.
You will have fun either way.
If you decide you want to learn and get better, it may not be a bad idea to start with a modest power level. It's more fun to drive the crap out of a 300whp than to ease around 500whp, IMO.
Another benefit is parts last longer. Gas, brakes, etc.
I learned my car at stock power levels, but that's just me. I had so much fun, I never thought about needing more power. More power is okay to bring down your lap times, but that's about it.

Also, if you ever make it out to a road course, you MAY never go to the drag strip again. LOL. All the hard-core drag racers i used to know now to HPDE LOL. I go once in a while, after a new build, just to see how the car does. I'll be going with the new cams and turbo to see if i can better my last time, just for the heck of it.

Erik@MIL.SPEC

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Yes, do yourself a favor and turn down the boost if you're near 400whp if you're going on the track.

300ish is all you need. And what you really need is to learn how to drive the car. Throwing money at a car can make a cool car (don't ask me how I know), but you'll be better off in the long run getting your car set up for the track, and then getting as much seat time as possible.

Jonno99

Race car: full cage and extinguisher, toe points, labeling, rubber, transport, join club and compete, have money to fix up smashed up car and your good to go!!! When you are good think mods pending class allowances.

Me in pits talking to race car driver with beautiful restored ford escort, next race car comes back on flat top like ball of mashed potato!! That's racing