Don't forget that many of our international members are basing their opinions on their own personal experiences, not something they have read in magazines or the net. Many have driven both the STi and the Evo.

I've also read many stories of Scooby owners who have switched to the Evo and never went back. I've haven't seen many stories the other way around. This comes from reading both Scooby and Evo forums, writeups in magazines, etc......

EDIT: BTW, this is a Lancer forum. Hence people here love the Lancer Evo, so of course you're going to see some bias. Go to any Scooby board and you'll see the same sort of thing.

 

I am one of those people... I was so into the STI coming to the US. Then after reading one article in a motortrend and finding out the facts I went to the subaru dealership got my depsoit and walked right next door over to the mitsu dealership( unfortunatly they weren't taking deposits at the time) and now im number 1 with a 1000 dollar deposit.

 

One thing I'm kind of concerned about is the RELIABILITY of the soon to be American EVO which, I'm sure, has been discussed before in this forum. Now, I do understand that they will be shipped strait from Japan which is good. But how reliable are JDM Mitsubishis as opposed to Hondas & Toyotas. The two over here are top quality, but the Mitsubishis are crap only because they are made in America. Or is it a Daimler/ Chrysler thing. It even says so in the Consumer Reports, and their sources of info are right on because they go strait through the manufacturers for problem history of that automobile. So my concern is, will the U.S. EVO blend in with the rest of the Mitsus, or will it stand by itself as a top quality Mitsubishi?

 

It won't be a blender....I can almost garauntee that. Mitsubishi has discussed NUMEROUS times that they're bringing this car over here to boost image, and to have a car that stands out.

Besides....I don't think there's ANY possible way that the Evo could blend in with the rest of the line of cars.

Hooby

 

I haven't driven an STI but I most of the magazine articles I have read have said the EVO out handled and was more race like then the STI but that the STI was softer, making it the better road car (the reason Tiff can'trememberhislastname choose the STI in the Top Gear video). This also shows in most racing I have seen, including the WRC before the kit cars started) I am not saying that the STI sucks or anything like that, I am just saying what I have read in magazines and seen in racing. I think both these cars are amazing for their performance & price.
Aston

 

In one of the videos I saw, wher the STi was being compared to the Evo VII, the driver tested both cars and said that the STi tends to understeer as compared to the Evo's drive! IMO, I would definately go with the Evolution rather than the STi. The US Lancer Evolution can look like whatever the hell it wants to. It's the performance I am after. After all, how hard is it nowadays to make a carlook nice if you've got the money! IMO, people who have second thoughts about getting a car, especially one with great performance, because of the way it looks are not devoted at all to their car. In other words, "Evolution VIII" or "Evolution Fugly", just bring the damn thing over w/EVO performance!

 

I have driven both the Scoobie and I own a VII. Even in standard format, an Evo handles far better than anything other than a highly modded Scoobie.

The Scoobie suspension is set up for every day driving. The suspension is soft and the car wallows. It understeers like crazy when pushed hard and this scrubs off speed like you wouldn't believe. OK, the limits on the Scoobie are higher than on many cars but are a long way behind the Evo.

The Evo has firm suspension but it is still acceptable. You can adjust the handling by your driving style from mild understeer to wild oversteer by a combination of throttle and steering in a way that a Scoobie driver could only dream of. This applies to both a car with AYC and one without.

IMO, you are talking about 2 very different cars whose only real link is the fact that they are both used in WRC rallying. The Evo is so much more focussed on the job at hand and is less comprimissed. Its not a car for wimps but it is about as satifying a drive you can find.

Final thought - one of these cars outhandles Porsches, etc. The other can't

 

Rock on,

Im glad to hear positive enthusiasm about the Evo, lately everyone seems to be mad. I totaly agree that the evo is a better street/track/drag strip car than an sti is, however there is something to be said for its off road abilities, personally I found it a blast to drive in the dirt. Not to mention that by using 8.2:1 piston compression the Detonation point is much higher allowing for more boost. Personally I think it has better styling and interier quality as well. However the raw performance of the Evo is why it is the clear choice, IMHO.

 

So you know how annoying you are on this board then, right?

Here's what my take on these two great car...
I think in stock trim... EVO will be FASTER.. not slightly.. but
FASTER to WAY FASTER... however, both cars are very
mod-friendly... and both car should be very equal once enough
money dumped into them.. (depends how deep your pocket is..)

I also think that EVO looks better than WRX...

 

well i agree on the statement that the 4G63 is a better powerplant

 

How would I be able to find out where the 03 EVO VII will be sold? Also, would a local dealer have any information at all about it?

 

Do a search..I'm sure you'll find all your info. BTW, we won't even be getting the VII, we are getting the Evo VIII.

 

Rather then just stateing which you thnk is better why not explain what it is that makes it a better powerplant, (ie. part specs and quality of materials used, compression, cam lift and duration, etc.)

That way some of these noobs can learn something instead of going around flaming those who know.

 

Thank you for saying so! When it comes down to it for me this is what makes me want the evo. Time and time again, i've read posts of people owning/driving both cars, and time and time again, the evo wins. No magazine means crap compared to this, THIS IS THE GOSPHEL! I've heard over and over again that the EVO is a much better car. Now we will just have to wait on the US Specs.

 

Check out www.exvitermini.com... Mario's comments are along the lines of this:

"After much deliberation, I have decided to terminate the WRX projects. There is no point in me pursuing development on a platform, that whilst being great for rallying, is way out of its league in making respectable horsepower and being able to put it to the ground effectively (not to mention without breaking something every time I so much as look in its direction)."

At which point his WRX made 301.5kW at all four wheels in fourth gear on a dyno dynamics dyno at 2.0 Kg/cm2 of boost.

(http://www.exvitermini.com/gc8specs.htm)

Now before you reply saying this guy obviously doesnt know what he's talking about, keep in mind he also has this:

http://www.exvitermini.com/r33specs.htm

(852KW at all four wheels, when the dyno hit the 200KM/h speed limit...)