Modern-day alternatives to Evo 9?
Aug 18, 2021, 10:58 AM
#31
I was secretly hoping for a nice DCT option on the new Z, but it makes sense that they'd pick a 9-speed auto from their current lineup.
I know modern automatics are quite good, but I still prefer the snappy shifts in both directions that come from a properly engineered DCT.
If the $38K model came with a few extra upgrades (LSD, brakes) it would be a good deal.
If the equipped models edge into the $45K range, I'd spend an extra 10-15% and get a base 3.0 Supra instead.
I know modern automatics are quite good, but I still prefer the snappy shifts in both directions that come from a properly engineered DCT.
If the equipped models edge into the $45K range, I'd spend an extra 10-15% and get a base 3.0 Supra instead.
Aug 18, 2021, 11:18 AM
#32
I was secretly hoping for a nice DCT option on the new Z, but it makes sense that they'd pick a 9-speed auto from their current lineup.
I know modern automatics are quite good, but I still prefer the snappy shifts in both directions that come from a properly engineered DCT.
If the $38K model came with a few extra upgrades (LSD, brakes) it would be a good deal.
If the equipped models edge into the $45K range, I'd spend an extra 10-15% and get a base 3.0 Supra instead.
I know modern automatics are quite good, but I still prefer the snappy shifts in both directions that come from a properly engineered DCT.
If the $38K model came with a few extra upgrades (LSD, brakes) it would be a good deal.
If the equipped models edge into the $45K range, I'd spend an extra 10-15% and get a base 3.0 Supra instead.
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Ayoustin (Aug 20, 2021)
Aug 18, 2021, 11:25 AM
#33
Aug 18, 2021, 07:49 PM
#34
Ive been thinking about this for the past couple of years. I love the evo, but after over 10 years of ownership, ive wondered if i should move on. I cant offer much in terms of other car driving experience, but i will say that i have a ton of fun ripping my rsx-s around even tho it has a 3rd of the power and a 4th of the torque.
What i will say is that ive come to terms that nothing might ever replace the evos feeling. I just have to find something that feels like home, if that makes sense.
Ive always wanted a Corvette, and if i sell the evo, its going to be for a vette. After driving several, to me personally it feels like home, even tho it is waay different than the evo in almost every way except for crappy interior (C6 and older). I just feel happy driving a vette. Much like lumpysticks has said regarding his supra, it doesn't replace the feeling of the evo, but the happiness and fun factor is there among other things.
Either way, good luck in your search! Nothing ive driven has compared to the evo which is why ive owned it so long.
What i will say is that ive come to terms that nothing might ever replace the evos feeling. I just have to find something that feels like home, if that makes sense.
Ive always wanted a Corvette, and if i sell the evo, its going to be for a vette. After driving several, to me personally it feels like home, even tho it is waay different than the evo in almost every way except for crappy interior (C6 and older). I just feel happy driving a vette. Much like lumpysticks has said regarding his supra, it doesn't replace the feeling of the evo, but the happiness and fun factor is there among other things.
Either way, good luck in your search! Nothing ive driven has compared to the evo which is why ive owned it so long.
Aug 20, 2021, 08:39 AM
#35
My evo isn't going anywhere but I have been considering what platform will be next to venture into designing and producing parts for. While i love doing evo parts, it's pretty low volume and shrinking more all the time so I'm looking at stuff that's newer and a little more mainstream.
So far considering 10th gen civics and GT86/BRZ. Also considering NC/ND miatas but still casually surveying the market at the moment. Hoping to find settle on an option by the end of the year.
So far considering 10th gen civics and GT86/BRZ. Also considering NC/ND miatas but still casually surveying the market at the moment. Hoping to find settle on an option by the end of the year.
Aug 20, 2021, 09:27 AM
#36
My evo isn't going anywhere but I have been considering what platform will be next to venture into designing and producing parts for. While i love doing evo parts, it's pretty low volume and shrinking more all the time so I'm looking at stuff that's newer and a little more mainstream.
So far considering 10th gen civics and GT86/BRZ. Also considering NC/ND miatas but still casually surveying the market at the moment. Hoping to find settle on an option by the end of the year.
So far considering 10th gen civics and GT86/BRZ. Also considering NC/ND miatas but still casually surveying the market at the moment. Hoping to find settle on an option by the end of the year.
Aug 20, 2021, 10:40 AM
#37
Of the products I've thought up I may end up doing a couple small batch sales but I don't see it as a realistic long term platform I can make enough to support my business with. Ideally I'm shooting for something newer (3-7 years old) that wasn't very expensive to buy when new. Everything I've listed fits that criteria I believe and are cars I've seen a fair amount of people driving on track the past couple years.
I think the miata stuff is fairly well covered so it's not at the top of the list. I think the 86 platform has been covered pretty well but I think with how good of swap platform it's becoming that tons of people are going to buy them for track cars in the next couple years and I believe there's a good hole in the market for well priced quality aftermarket suspension and chassis parts. The 10th gen civic really appeals to me though. Their aftermarket is still quite small on suspension and chassis parts which makes it easier to stand out rather than being just another name. Lots of people are already tracking the FK8 CTR but I've also noticed more and more people driving the Si on track too and given how not expensive they were new (like $25k) I think they're going to make a great weekend track car option over the next 10 years or so. Lots of parts interchange between those 2 cars too which means I'd be able to market to 2 somewhat different audiences with the same or similar parts.
Aug 20, 2021, 11:51 AM
#38
Still having fun with it at the moment, just arrive at the track, make sure it has enough oil and send it the entire day without having to check anything except tire pressure; and it makes a great cheap daily/errand runner. I have a couple product ideas for it but I think it's a fairly niche market. The GD Fit was only sold in the US for 2 years and the amount of people that modify them is relatively small. Pretty much everyone who tracks them does it for Gridlife's Sundae Cup class and mods are relatively limited for the class too.
Of the products I've thought up I may end up doing a couple small batch sales but I don't see it as a realistic long term platform I can make enough to support my business with. Ideally I'm shooting for something newer (3-7 years old) that wasn't very expensive to buy when new. Everything I've listed fits that criteria I believe and are cars I've seen a fair amount of people driving on track the past couple years.
I think the miata stuff is fairly well covered so it's not at the top of the list. I think the 86 platform has been covered pretty well but I think with how good of swap platform it's becoming that tons of people are going to buy them for track cars in the next couple years and I believe there's a good hole in the market for well priced quality aftermarket suspension and chassis parts. The 10th gen civic really appeals to me though. Their aftermarket is still quite small on suspension and chassis parts which makes it easier to stand out rather than being just another name. Lots of people are already tracking the FK8 CTR but I've also noticed more and more people driving the Si on track too and given how not expensive they were new (like $25k) I think they're going to make a great weekend track car option over the next 10 years or so. Lots of parts interchange between those 2 cars too which means I'd be able to market to 2 somewhat different audiences with the same or similar parts.
Of the products I've thought up I may end up doing a couple small batch sales but I don't see it as a realistic long term platform I can make enough to support my business with. Ideally I'm shooting for something newer (3-7 years old) that wasn't very expensive to buy when new. Everything I've listed fits that criteria I believe and are cars I've seen a fair amount of people driving on track the past couple years.
I think the miata stuff is fairly well covered so it's not at the top of the list. I think the 86 platform has been covered pretty well but I think with how good of swap platform it's becoming that tons of people are going to buy them for track cars in the next couple years and I believe there's a good hole in the market for well priced quality aftermarket suspension and chassis parts. The 10th gen civic really appeals to me though. Their aftermarket is still quite small on suspension and chassis parts which makes it easier to stand out rather than being just another name. Lots of people are already tracking the FK8 CTR but I've also noticed more and more people driving the Si on track too and given how not expensive they were new (like $25k) I think they're going to make a great weekend track car option over the next 10 years or so. Lots of parts interchange between those 2 cars too which means I'd be able to market to 2 somewhat different audiences with the same or similar parts.
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Ayoustin (Aug 20, 2021)
Aug 20, 2021, 02:24 PM
#39
There is a TON of aftermarket support for the 86 twins. I think you might be onto something with the Civic SI. They are capable cars, however they do have some shortcomings on track. I think cooling is a big one, but they can fit decent tire. In my opinion they also look 5,000,000x better than the CTR. They will be great buys used for a fun track day car.
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Aug 26, 2021, 09:43 PM
#42
I'm not impressed with the z. It's a 370z with an engine/trans swap, a body kit and interior update. Not saying the 370 was a bad car but come on Nissan, after almost 13 year of having the same chassis, seriously.... change it up. I am biased, obviously, but its not going to be the Supra killer as it's been named.
Aug 27, 2021, 06:29 AM
#44
I'm not impressed with the z. It's a 370z with an engine/trans swap, a body kit and interior update. Not saying the 370 was a bad car but come on Nissan, after almost 13 year of having the same chassis, seriously.... change it up. I am biased, obviously, but its not going to be the Supra killer as it's been named.
Aug 27, 2021, 06:42 AM
#45
Not sure why you guys feel this way. The engine and trans were the most meh things about the previous Z gens. The chassis is constructed very well honestly so I don't see a huge need for improvement there. Nissan is good about using aluminum in the right places of the chassis and suspension, the car comes with a mechanical LSD as standard, Brembo brakes are optional, and they don't force you to get a sunroof. I see this car selling very well, Supra sales are definitely going to suffer considering that you can get 400whp with a manual and not have to get a weaker base engine to get a third pedal.