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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 09:17 AM
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Evo 8 GSC S3 or STM 650 cams

Hello, Does anybody has any comparison between GSC S3 cams and STM 650? I will upgrade my cams and I dont know which one to go with. I have build 2.0L engine with 6266 turbo but my plan is to change turbo to 6466 or 6870 in the future. I have competition 272 cams right now and power is drooping past 7500. Can't decide between gsc s3 or stm 650. Anyone got some experience with any of those cams? Thanks
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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 10:32 AM
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Most of us run the GSC line of cams. Heres the camcard for the S3's

Cant seem to find any spec no.s on those STM's (its a secret! and their cast vs the GSC billet)

Would not touch those STM's!


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Old Jan 18, 2022 | 09:12 PM
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Thank you so much for specs on s3 cams. Yes I was trying to find some specs on stm cams but they saying it is a secret. I will most likely go with s3 cams. First I was thinking to go with s2 but I think s3 will help me more with what I am trying to achieve.
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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 03:34 PM
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Here is the STM650 cams by Kelford pulled it off of STM's website.

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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 03:44 PM
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Wow, good find. They are mild compared to the S3's. There almost like an S2 with a bit lower intake & a bit higher exhaust duration but same lift as the S3's.

S2's below:

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Old Jan 24, 2022 | 04:44 PM
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i liked my S3's on a 2.4 10:1 motor.
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 06:40 AM
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So look like they little smaller than s3 but bigger than s2. Something between. Do you guys run s3 on 2.0L engine?
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by krys88
So look like they little smaller than s3 but bigger than s2. Something between. Do you guys run s3 on 2.0L engine?
Yeah I am going to be running S3's in the new 2.0L build I am doing.
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusPrevious
Wow, good find. They are mild compared to the S3's. There almost like an S2 with a bit lower intake & a bit higher exhaust duration but same lift as the S3's.

S2's below:


The STM 650's are actually very close to the S3. Advertised duration is a bit short, but lift and duration @ 1mm are very close. The S3 does edge them out by a smidgen.
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Old Jan 25, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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Yeah I am going to be running S3's in the new 2.0L build I am doing.
I think I will go with s3 also. What turbo size will you run?
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Originally Posted by krys88
I think I will go with s3 also. What turbo size will you run?
I will be running a 67mm.
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I’m running the s3 with a 62mm turbo fyi. Absolutely love them. Depending on your tune you can have them lope like a Chevy or purr like stock. They drive drive very well on the street.
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 10:55 AM
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I’m running the s3 with a 62mm turbo fyi. Absolutely love them. Depending on your tune you can have them lope like a Chevy or purr like stock. They drive drive very well on the street.
Great. I think I will order them. What rpms do you change your gears? Some people saying you have to shift at 9-9.5 to see advantage of those cams. My rev limiter is at 9 but like to shift at around 8.0-8.2
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Great. I think I will order them. What rpms do you change your gears? Some people saying you have to shift at 9-9.5 to see advantage of those cams. My rev limiter is at 9 but like to shift at around 8.0-8.2
My redline is 8000 but I have very tall gears 4.08 final drive. It’s plenty of rpm in my application. Your setup may be different.
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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ronaldo9
My redline is 8000 but I have very tall gears 4.08 final drive. It’s plenty of rpm in my application. Your setup may be different.
Did your 4.08 final driver slower the car down or actually made it faster on that turbo? Sorry for out of topic question but my spare transmission is disassembled and I am considering to go 4.11
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