All ss manifolds crack.

 

Well here is an update. I called Buschur and they told me they couldn't send one to replace it because they had none and did not know when they would. They said if I sent mine back they would repair it. They sounded honest and I would send it back but the only thing stopping me is I don't have the stock system anymore and it's a daily driver right now as my bike is being worked on. So I guess I have to wait till I have sometime to send it off. Sure wish they had one in stock...

bryan

 

I agree. It seems like this should be part of every IC pipe manufacturer's process. Ideally, you'd want every IC pipe built to be pressure tested before being shipped out. But that's just not feasible, especially for a small shop. From a quality control standpoint, I'd pull 2-3 out of every 10 to get tested from the first few batches just to make sure they're being built correctly. Then adjust any manufacturing processes if necessary. After that, I'd pull 1 out of 20 to check for quality.

 

Ok... and ALL four-bangers are slow

...although you didn't comment on all the reports of bad customer service... comments included from vendors here.

 

thanks for the help, i was considering buying BR IC pipes and now I changed my mind!

 

Ok, I just read this entire thread, and although I cannot argue with the fact that you've had problems with the pipe, I would have to say that you are in the minority.. When you manufacture and sell products, you do occasionally get a defect. It happens to the best. I think its unfair to characterize the products this way when I also have pretty much all of the Buschur stage components for the EVO and have not had any problems with them..

I've installed several Buschur exhausts recently, and never had an issue with fitment on the few sets that I installed for friends. The first buschur setup I had was installed by Z1 performance, and they installed it in under an hour, my car was rear-ended and I had to have it replaced, and bought another setup, that one also bolted up fine.

I also have the same intercooler pipes, just out of curiosity I checked mine for weld quality, pinholes, flange defects, etc.. the *ONLY* defect I found was the 1G BOV itself, and thats trivial (the spring pressure even crushed is a bit low so it leaks a little when there's alot of engine vacuum and whistles) But to be honest, how can you blame a 1G Crushed BOV on buschur when he basically gives you the valve for free.. he doesn't have to include it.

OK, so I admittedly have a biased opinion on the products.. But he's sold hundreds, if not thousands of components for the EVO and even more for DSM's. So IMHO 2, even 10 problems would not be enough to dissuade me from purchasing his products. In fact, sometimes you want to hear about a defect, and how they handle it, because customer service is what then comes into play... HKS may make good quality products, but their customer service is virtually nonexistent should you have a problem.

Here's the problem with the internet and forums.. And I've seen this umpteen times.. people who are satisfied go their merry way, and rarely talk about their good experiences.. But the very VOCAL minority are the ones who have problems or are just people that you cannot please no matter how hard you try (In this case its obvious he had a legitimate problem, now for you its all about customer service)

All I ask is that anyone considering purchasing any product, look at the good and the bad.. do your research, and consider that anyone can have problems with ANYONEs products, and you need to determine if the manufacturer will step up and do the right thing should you have a problem.

And I have no affiliation with buschur in any way, I just use his products, I am not sponsored by them. I paid the same for his products as anyone else buying off their website. This is just a satisfied customer's opinion.

 

No argument buddy, I was simply stating I had a problem with their upper intercooler pipe and I also had the same bov issue you had. I stated I liked their products and service but in this one case it was poor quality. I had an issue with their intercooler kit lower pipe too (it would not seal/bolt up right because it was hitting the wastegate) but with custom parts come custom problems. The fact of the matter is to check the stuff you ordered from where ever after you received it before and after install. I just believe before shipping a product of this nature that at least welds could be given an eye over before shipping. Holes in welds aren't that hard to spot nor do they take much time for the amount of grief it saves both me and them.

bryan

 

Agreed.. I didn't mean to come across confrontational..

I actually had a similar problem with the lower pipe, but discovered that it was how I was trying to install it.. once I took the intercooler off again, and lined everything up, it went together easily. HOWEVER that bolt on one side was a PITA to get tightened down.

Its all part of the game.. Blood, Sweat and Gears..

 

Get the Craftsman 1/4" swivel socket and the bolt is easy to get to. The 3/8" swivel it to large and a knuckle won't fit either.

 

that is caused by overheating when they weld it.....

 

like you said in your post... i think thats why people who do have GOOD opinions about good products. they do not bother posting raves reviews for such products because i think they just dont want to be seen as "sponsored" or "affiliated" with one particular group or company. even so, with the anonymous nature of the internet, its easy to say your not with a particular group, even when you are. either way... i always take people reviews of someone elses product with a grain of salt and ALWAYS do research...

 

well since my buschur FMIC should be arriving this week with the piping; upper/lower, how would I pressure test the FMIC and the pipes first before I go and try to install these mods.....i read someone said going to home depot to buy some goodies....what types of goodies would you need to pressure test the pipes Thanks for the help in advance all!!

E

 

I would recommend to just an inspection, ues a level on the BOV surface and then inspect all welds carefully with a flashlight in a dark room and make sure it is a solid weld.

 

I'm sorry to hear about that product. the best fitment is your OWN custom piping... I ran into a problem with fitment from RRM. so I desided to take EVERYTHING off (including the turbo) & I went & custom made the piping, manofold, UPGRADED turbo, intercooler, fittings, hoses, injectors... ect. from my experience. is WORTH every penny to custom make your own pipes, manofold, fittings... ect. well guys I'm just trying to help some new folks into to what there getting into...

 

I have to agree.. I have some unique requirements for components so some of my stuff is going to have to be custom made..

However, the buschur stuff does fit, and does work as expected.. But just inspect what you get to be sure everything is in good condition and doesnt appear to have bad welds, if it does, do the light trick, or get some 2.5" couplers, PVC Caps, a compressor "Air fill fitting" and pressure test it (with the BOV removed) and use a flat piece of lexan in place of the 1G BOV under water.. if its gonna leak, you'll see little bubbles.. this is the biggest PITA technique, but you can guarantee that you either do or don't have leaks or pinholes and you know exactly what pressure it will hold till..

The light trick and close inspection is by far the fastest, easiest, and adequate method.. Its unlikely you'd have any major problems.. things happen occasionally, if thats the case, try to minimize your down time by checking it first, then you can send it back before your car is in pieces..