Who's doing this on regular bases? I'm not running the filter on my stock box when I'm at autox or drag racing, but I'm trying to figure out if I could do it daily.

I know I'm not gonna get chunk of stuff on my turbo, since we have a screen built onto the stock box on the intake piping part, but I'm bit worried about the small particles getting in.

I know eventually the smaller particle will be burnt up in the engine, because we're boosting (from the high heat) but I want to know what you people think.

I'm running so much better without the filter and the exhuast and i don't want an aftermarket intake that's not ram air.

thanks.

 

Turbotrix doesn't run an air filter.

 

little particles of dirt and sand will NOT burn up and will eventually cause premature failure on your turbo, the fan has very little tolerances for clearance, even more so than engine, what will happen is a piece of dirt will jam up the turbo, and blow your turbo into pieces and 170,000 rpm turbo will mostly likely destroy your engine when it breaks apart.

 

turbotrix has a tendency to push everything to its limit for that extra hp with less consideration for the margin of safety.. unfortunately average joe doesnt have the money to recover from any failures....

 

Ask yourself if the benefits outwiegh the risks. "No" is the answer.

 

what are you a mind reader?

 

I used my Magic 8-Ball

 

So I guess nobody knows for sure or have any technical to say, other than, "I think there maybe a risk associated with it, but if I were you I wouldn't do that".

Oh and how is a piece of "dirt" gonna jam up your turbo? Do you have any clearance measurement for the turbo? I'm wondering this, since usually the turbine fan has the inner fan and the outer fan that goes around the opening.

I figure that turbo would actually push away anything heavy (compared to air).

I had few people who ran without the filter and I've done it several times and had no problems with it... But I wanted to find out if you could do it daily.

If you've heard the air box without the filter on, yes, it will outweight the risk, since it sounds 10 times better than any BOV out there... for me.

 

Ok forget the piece of dirt. What happens after repeated bugs entering the intake and hitting your itake turine on your turbo. This will happen and you will destroy your turbo and engine over a period of time.

 

well think about all those little pieces of dirt etc getting into your engine / oil like liquid sandpaper for your 100K_RPM turbo.. Not to mention your 7,000 RPM engine speed..

 

well, that's what I'm saying, could it pass the turbine? or will it gunk it up?

There are supras and RX 7 that doesn't even have a intake piping, running straight open face turbo on daily basis.

So that's what I'm trying to figure out.

What I would be really worry about is getting water into it, but there's a hole on the bottom of the intake housing for the water to drain...

 

No one can make this decision but you. But don't kid yourself. If, as you say, no one on here knows for sure or has anything technical to say, then go ask a mechanic how long your motor will last with no air filtration. Just take out an air filter after several months of use and look at all that is trapped by the filter. Now ask yourself what all that dirt will do to your cylinder walls. No one is going to be able to give you a definite answer on how long your motor is going to last. It depends on the conditions you drive in, how much gets into the motor, and where that ends up. I would think that after a year or so you will have lost significant compression from one or more cylinders, and maybe your turbo. But, like I say you have to weigh the pros and cons of this and decide for yourself. $7000 every year or two for a new motor isn't that much money anyways. If it sounds 10 times better, I say go for it.

 

It will cause premature ring wear. If you drive a racecar, you will likely be rebuilding the engine at least once a season so it doesn't matter so much.

I know a local guy who runs an open face turbo on a drag car, it injested a very small stone which ended the turbo and the engine in a hurry.

For a daily driver, the minimal horsepower gain vs. a good filter setup really isn't worth the potential thousands of $$$. I've seen cars on the dyno that gained absolutely nothing by pulling the filter. (a 350z, actually) IMO, there are safer ways to make power...

 

veeeeeeeeery bad idea i dont understand why people think its ok to do this. Yes if its an all out race car go for it your making money off of it. But for a daily driver its just not worth it. Ever been following a semi truck and u hear little rocks hitting your windshield? imagine if one of those little rocks finds its way under the hood into the airbox? ehh that would just be bad . Anything twisting that kinda RPM "100k+" when anything at all contacts it that is a solid it could just be ehh bad. Basically if you want to take the risk run it like that @ the drag strip but all other times keep it in. This is basically like spraying the hell out of a car with some nitrous. It might blow up it might not.... it all depends on how big the "Shot or Rock" in this case.......

 

Don't forget that the opening of the airbox is like a vacuum. It's gonna suck in whatever is near it. There are many other better, safer, and smarter ways of making more hp.