Evo Stolen
Originally Posted by trinydex
oh ****.... the immobilizer can be so easily disabled?
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Sorry to hear about your car, hey at least you got it back. I had my car stolen 2 times in a 3 month period and it was found in the bronx both times. second time it was found 3 blocks from where it was recovered the first time. I still think it was the same people both times.
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Originally Posted by lil'evil_evo
By removing the front bumper beam you would lose support for a front end collision. In the US we have guidelines where Japan does not.
FWIW You guys should do a search on "Vehicle Recovery Devices" on google.. Many cars use a proximity key (Think of that security tag you have on the stuff you buy in a store that occasionally causes the store security devices to go off when you leave)
Anyway, in researching some stuff a few years back, I had come across several "sweep devices" designed to sweep the codes for a particular car.
Your car was likely targetted and they had enough information to defeat the immobilizer either mechanically or with a recovery device (Yes they do sell them to law enforcement and property recovery agencies)
Its also possible this was an inside job (someone at a dealership) since its possible that getting the VIN# off the dash, and looking up the information migh have resulted in getting the key code for the immobilizer frequency.
Although I'm not certain how a Turbo Timer works, I have heard that the way its powered may defeat an immobilizer.. Another thought is the car got taken while your car was running off the turbo timer, at that exact moment, the lock cyl could have been pulled and the key turned as if the car was still running.. Then they disconnect the turbo timer to keep it from shutting down.
Just my ponderances.. However this still SUCKS, and only proves that you have to do everything in your power to protect your property.. Which means doing common sense things such as watching your surroundings, and parking somewhere your car isn't easily spotted, and using devices that will mechanically immobilize the car too. At least it will make it more difficult.
I feel for you though.. Its just a fact of life now, I do what I can to keep people away from my car (I've even set up traps for people at times if I knew there were recurring problems)
Anyway, in researching some stuff a few years back, I had come across several "sweep devices" designed to sweep the codes for a particular car.
Your car was likely targetted and they had enough information to defeat the immobilizer either mechanically or with a recovery device (Yes they do sell them to law enforcement and property recovery agencies)
Its also possible this was an inside job (someone at a dealership) since its possible that getting the VIN# off the dash, and looking up the information migh have resulted in getting the key code for the immobilizer frequency.
Although I'm not certain how a Turbo Timer works, I have heard that the way its powered may defeat an immobilizer.. Another thought is the car got taken while your car was running off the turbo timer, at that exact moment, the lock cyl could have been pulled and the key turned as if the car was still running.. Then they disconnect the turbo timer to keep it from shutting down.
Just my ponderances.. However this still SUCKS, and only proves that you have to do everything in your power to protect your property.. Which means doing common sense things such as watching your surroundings, and parking somewhere your car isn't easily spotted, and using devices that will mechanically immobilize the car too. At least it will make it more difficult.
I feel for you though.. Its just a fact of life now, I do what I can to keep people away from my car (I've even set up traps for people at times if I knew there were recurring problems)
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hey man, that really is terrible... thankfully you got your car back.
had my car broken into 4times in dallas... the last while parked in my parking garage... 2-3hrs after i came back with my girl at the time... i got in like at 4am and had to get back to the hospital at 7am...
go to work the next day, no stereo, no cds... glass everywhere and my interior trashed.
anyone deal with aftermarket alarm services after buying their evo?
really intereseted since in the sleepy white bread yuppie-ville of ann arbor, my neighbors really nicely done mondeo svt and motorcycle where jacked the same night... definitely someone who's been watching him.
... lojack sounds like a necessity. and talking low-tech, probably would get the club.
had my car broken into 4times in dallas... the last while parked in my parking garage... 2-3hrs after i came back with my girl at the time... i got in like at 4am and had to get back to the hospital at 7am...
go to work the next day, no stereo, no cds... glass everywhere and my interior trashed.
anyone deal with aftermarket alarm services after buying their evo?
really intereseted since in the sleepy white bread yuppie-ville of ann arbor, my neighbors really nicely done mondeo svt and motorcycle where jacked the same night... definitely someone who's been watching him.
... lojack sounds like a necessity. and talking low-tech, probably would get the club.
using an autolock will only stop a % of thieves, tons of cars have been stolen using either the buddy club, auto lock and alarms.
Having stereo equipment only makes your car more attractive (since is the most popular thing to steal a car for)
i have notice that most Evo's that have been broken in , its mainly for stereo equipment. Reason why mine will never see after market radio or speakers, stock unit more then enough.
Also some one could of been watching and time you how long you leave your car on (or stays on ) with the TT. Do you remeber walking away in a hurry and not paying attention if your car was still on? as you left the parking area (due to TT )
An if you did that all the time or half of the time (sometimes because we dont take the time or are always rushing to get to work we forget the small things that can prevent from you car being stolen)
glad to know that you recover your car and mayor things were not taking, like loosing an entire motor, tranny or things that you could of add to it.(like after market upgrades that a lot of insurance companies don't cover)
Having stereo equipment only makes your car more attractive (since is the most popular thing to steal a car for)
i have notice that most Evo's that have been broken in , its mainly for stereo equipment. Reason why mine will never see after market radio or speakers, stock unit more then enough.
Also some one could of been watching and time you how long you leave your car on (or stays on ) with the TT. Do you remeber walking away in a hurry and not paying attention if your car was still on? as you left the parking area (due to TT )
An if you did that all the time or half of the time (sometimes because we dont take the time or are always rushing to get to work we forget the small things that can prevent from you car being stolen)
glad to know that you recover your car and mayor things were not taking, like loosing an entire motor, tranny or things that you could of add to it.(like after market upgrades that a lot of insurance companies don't cover)
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They tried to jack your inercooler, someone spooked them. Sounds like they had a specific shopping list. U can't tell if there is a plug and play harness installed from the outside of the car.
Originally Posted by orion981
Well, my evo was stolen yesterday, right from the Marriott parking lot too. I was on a business trip, so hopefully they will take care of the costs instead of my insurance.
Good news is, they found the car. About 1500 dollars worth of stereo equipment is gone, and they jacked up my ignition and front door locks. They crooks also took some strange things. They took my owners manual and floor mats. They even took a five dollar rachet set I had in the trunk. I had and HKS turbo timer, and they went through the trouble of disconnecting it perfectly, even going back to the ecu and unplugging the taps I had put in there. But get this, they left my Takata harnesses??? It would have taken them 5 minutes to steal them, but they left them right there. I'm not complaining, just a little baffled. Why go through all that trouble to take a hundred dollar turbo timer and leave 360 dollar harnesses??? They also left my handheld mp3 player, which is about 300 dollars.
I guess they were just stupid, who knows.
Anyway, they also did something to my front bumper. Not sure what, but it'll probably need replacing. Does anybody know how much stock bumpers cost? I was thinking of getting an aftermarket one instead. I think I've seen the Gaillia bumpers for like 600??? Is this about what a stock bumper would cost? I know OEM parts are usually more expensive than aftermarket stuff, for some reason. Also, I wanted to get the evo 7 style bumper, what else do I need to put it on? Evo 7 headlights? If so, how much would those cost?
Thanks guys.
Good news is, they found the car. About 1500 dollars worth of stereo equipment is gone, and they jacked up my ignition and front door locks. They crooks also took some strange things. They took my owners manual and floor mats. They even took a five dollar rachet set I had in the trunk. I had and HKS turbo timer, and they went through the trouble of disconnecting it perfectly, even going back to the ecu and unplugging the taps I had put in there. But get this, they left my Takata harnesses??? It would have taken them 5 minutes to steal them, but they left them right there. I'm not complaining, just a little baffled. Why go through all that trouble to take a hundred dollar turbo timer and leave 360 dollar harnesses??? They also left my handheld mp3 player, which is about 300 dollars.
I guess they were just stupid, who knows.
Anyway, they also did something to my front bumper. Not sure what, but it'll probably need replacing. Does anybody know how much stock bumpers cost? I was thinking of getting an aftermarket one instead. I think I've seen the Gaillia bumpers for like 600??? Is this about what a stock bumper would cost? I know OEM parts are usually more expensive than aftermarket stuff, for some reason. Also, I wanted to get the evo 7 style bumper, what else do I need to put it on? Evo 7 headlights? If so, how much would those cost?
Thanks guys.
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The immobolizer on this car is rediculous at best.
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
FWIW You guys should do a search on "Vehicle Recovery Devices" on google.. Many cars use a proximity key (Think of that security tag you have on the stuff you buy in a store that occasionally causes the store security devices to go off when you leave)
Anyway, in researching some stuff a few years back, I had come across several "sweep devices" designed to sweep the codes for a particular car.
Your car was likely targetted and they had enough information to defeat the immobilizer either mechanically or with a recovery device (Yes they do sell them to law enforcement and property recovery agencies)
Its also possible this was an inside job (someone at a dealership) since its possible that getting the VIN# off the dash, and looking up the information migh have resulted in getting the key code for the immobilizer frequency.
Although I'm not certain how a Turbo Timer works, I have heard that the way its powered may defeat an immobilizer.. Another thought is the car got taken while your car was running off the turbo timer, at that exact moment, the lock cyl could have been pulled and the key turned as if the car was still running.. Then they disconnect the turbo timer to keep it from shutting down.
Just my ponderances.. However this still SUCKS, and only proves that you have to do everything in your power to protect your property.. Which means doing common sense things such as watching your surroundings, and parking somewhere your car isn't easily spotted, and using devices that will mechanically immobilize the car too. At least it will make it more difficult.
I feel for you though.. Its just a fact of life now, I do what I can to keep people away from my car (I've even set up traps for people at times if I knew there were recurring problems)
Anyway, in researching some stuff a few years back, I had come across several "sweep devices" designed to sweep the codes for a particular car.
Your car was likely targetted and they had enough information to defeat the immobilizer either mechanically or with a recovery device (Yes they do sell them to law enforcement and property recovery agencies)
Its also possible this was an inside job (someone at a dealership) since its possible that getting the VIN# off the dash, and looking up the information migh have resulted in getting the key code for the immobilizer frequency.
Although I'm not certain how a Turbo Timer works, I have heard that the way its powered may defeat an immobilizer.. Another thought is the car got taken while your car was running off the turbo timer, at that exact moment, the lock cyl could have been pulled and the key turned as if the car was still running.. Then they disconnect the turbo timer to keep it from shutting down.
Just my ponderances.. However this still SUCKS, and only proves that you have to do everything in your power to protect your property.. Which means doing common sense things such as watching your surroundings, and parking somewhere your car isn't easily spotted, and using devices that will mechanically immobilize the car too. At least it will make it more difficult.
I feel for you though.. Its just a fact of life now, I do what I can to keep people away from my car (I've even set up traps for people at times if I knew there were recurring problems)
so does anyone have any concrete evidence or first hand experience about the TT and care to share to help other evo owners increase their security? I think the best security measure would be getting an aftermarket steering wheel (yes another) getting a wheel hub with a lock and key to it and lock it and take the steering wheel off. Good luck trying to bust that thing, its near impossible or just a pain in the ***.
Originally Posted by pjork-master
... lojack sounds like a necessity. and talking low-tech, probably would get the club.
Uhm, if you wired a TT correctly you'd run a wire to the emergency brake, so if it's put down the car turns off immediately. I wired in a friend's greddy tt manually, and made sure to rip apart the center console to get to that wire.
Originally Posted by orion981
The state it was stolen in was New York. I live and work in Connecticut, and was in NY for business. The car ended up in the Bronx. I'm not sure how they started it. They completely ripped out the ignition lock, so that you could use a screwdriver to start the car. Although when I got I tried to do it, nothing happened. I think they must have pulled a few fuses to disable the car. I have lojack, which is how I found the car so quickly. I think what theives do nowdays is ditch a car somewhere for a few days. If the cops havent' found it by then, it probably doesn't have lojack, and they know it's save to steal for good. Anyway, I think they disabled the car so that someone else wouldn't steal the car from them.
As for the color, my car is apex silver. I'd love to pick up an evo 7 bumber, but what would be the drawback to remvoing the front bumper bar??? What purpose does it serve? And I'd love to pick up a cf hood, but I don't think it's in the budget right now. If you need a new hood to put an evo7 bumper on there, I don't think I could afford it.
As for the color, my car is apex silver. I'd love to pick up an evo 7 bumber, but what would be the drawback to remvoing the front bumper bar??? What purpose does it serve? And I'd love to pick up a cf hood, but I don't think it's in the budget right now. If you need a new hood to put an evo7 bumper on there, I don't think I could afford it.
Does lojack work with gps? If so then all the thieves would have to do is go into a garage where there is no signal? Does the tracking pick off where it was last located at?