Evo Stolen
by the way, if you read the manual just a FYI, you can program the keys yourself and not go to the dealer to do it. I believe you can do up to 3 keys or something like that. Dont know why i posted that but just in case people want spare keys and they dont want to be charged by the dealer to have it done when you can do it for free yourself.
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Originally Posted by Derek888
Do all Evo's come with the immobilizer or is it an option?
As far as I know, all the USDM Evo's have the Immobilizer installed. I don't know about the RS's though. I would assume that they do. When I got insurance for my car, my company already knew that the Evo was equipped with it and gave me the discount accordingly. Funny, though. They said that it was the mose effective form of vehicle theft prevention, and even if I was to add LoJack or a super-multi-feature aftermarket car alarm, they could not give me any more of a discount in the "theft deterence" category.....I won't argue this with them, even though the Immobilizer is as useful as John Kerry as our President.
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
I won't argue this with them, even though the Immobilizer is as useful as John Kerry as our President.
It did keep the would be theives from starting the evo. They took it anyway by towing it, but at least I can know they didn't actually get it started. Who knows what they could have done to it driving. I take it they didn't get it started out of lack of knowledge, but at least it prevents the common theif from hotwiring your car.
Go John Kerry!
Well, perhaps the Immobilizer was actually standing behind it's goal on that particlular day. Something that Kerry can rarely ever do...
Oh, did I say that outloud? hehehe...
Make up your mind, Kerry.
Oh, did I say that outloud? hehehe...
Make up your mind, Kerry.
Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Well, perhaps the Immobilizer was actually standing behind it's goal on that particlular day. Something that Kerry can rarely ever do...
Oh, did I say that outloud? hehehe...
Make up your mind, Kerry.
Oh, did I say that outloud? hehehe...
Make up your mind, Kerry.
Originally Posted by EVO Neil
Yes, but nobody died when Clinton lied. ABB Camp.
Actually, they did. Perhaps you've forgotten about the "Lewinsky Bombs" he dropped on Afghanistan and the Sudan? Well, it was nice to remind you...
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Originally Posted by 90GSX-03EVO
Here's what I found out. I went to K-Mart and had a spare key cut with NO Immobilizer chip in it. Just a plain ol' $0.99 key. THen I went out to my car. First, I tried starting the car with just the copied key. It would crank, but not start up. After the 3rd try, the green security light started to flash on the dash. This whole time, I had the original key in my pocket. It wasn't close enough. I then took out the original key and started the car. Then I turned off the car and while the turbo timer was counting down, I inserted the copied key again and turned it to the ON position. I dropped the hand brake and the car kept running. Normally, this would have shut off my turbo timer and the engine. Then I shut off the car and tried starting it again, using the copied key, with the original key RIGHT NEXT to it, trying to be in close enough proximity of the immobilizer's antenna. It still wouldn't start. The original key had to be IN the ignition for it to start.
So, in conclusion.
Once the turbo timer is counting down, you can insert a copied key and the car will not recognize it as a copy. The immobilizer only looks for a proper key upon startup. The rest of the time, it could care less. It looks like it is simple circuitry that once properly biased, it stays latched until all power is removed. This is probably why it is so easy to defeat the immobilizer. It doesn't take some fancy code, just the correct applied voltage (or grounding) and you're in there.
So, in conclusion.
Once the turbo timer is counting down, you can insert a copied key and the car will not recognize it as a copy. The immobilizer only looks for a proper key upon startup. The rest of the time, it could care less. It looks like it is simple circuitry that once properly biased, it stays latched until all power is removed. This is probably why it is so easy to defeat the immobilizer. It doesn't take some fancy code, just the correct applied voltage (or grounding) and you're in there.
Originally Posted by ex-honda
Whew...you save me the time to do what you did. but still have to get a copy in case I lock my *** out of the car. So, in conclusion, if you have a timer make sure the cars turns off before leaving the car. Kinda ridiculous because you are defeating the purpose of the timer. Meaning, the timer is there so you don't have to sit in the car to cool down the turbo.
I use the turbo timer as more of a convenience than a necessity. When I shut down the car, it times out. While it is timing out, I have the time to roll up the windows, unbuckle my seatbelt, grab anything out of the car that I might need for wherever I am going (cell phone, etc.), get out of the car, go over to the other door and open it for my girlfriend, whatever else I need. If it takes a minute to time out, then this is usually just enough time to do all of this, and then the car shuts down right about the time when I am ready to lock the doors. Also, if I didn't have a turbo timer, I would have to sit still and look at my watch to know when I have sat long enough.
Any way about it. Idling isn't where you really want to truely time your car out after you have ran it hard. You don't have sufficient oil pressure at idle to really cool things off after a strong drive. The best is about 1500 RPMs with a slight load on the motor.
I just put the turbo timer in my car so I could look cool and score chicks. So far, It hasn't worked.
Correct me if im wrong but you say when the turbo timer is still and engine running a thieve could start your car with a duplicate key? If this is correct then what are the chances a thieve will steal your car withing 30 seconds after you leave?
Originally Posted by Derek888
Correct me if im wrong but you say when the turbo timer is still and engine running a thieve could start your car with a duplicate key? If this is correct then what are the chances a thieve will steal your car withing 30 seconds after you leave?
I think TT are not a security risk at all. There's more of a chance of your car just getting towed, like mine did. If someone wants it, they'll take it. A TT is not going to be the difference between your car getting stolen or not.
Originally Posted by Derek888
Orion981,
From looking at your mods, how much horsepower increase do you think you got and how much quicker is your car?
From looking at your mods, how much horsepower increase do you think you got and how much quicker is your car?
Hope this answers your question.