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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Are Black couplings an available option? or is Blue only it?
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Hey guys,

Mark - thanks for all the pics

We only have the blue pipes in stock, the polished and blacks will be back in stock in about 2 weeks. Please contact us for ordering. Thanks!!

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Hope your all Jealous, My Black pipes will be here Thursday!!
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Gary

Are Black couplings an available option? or is Blue only it?
I couldn't get an answer to this so I'm having custom pipes done on Monday
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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I couldn't get an answer to this so I'm having custom pipes done on Monday
Zeus,

Do you think a set of custom built IC pipes will have better fit and finish compared to these Helix pipes? Also, the cost of custom pipes will most likely surpass the introductory cost of these Helix pipes + black couplings unless you have a hook up. Are they going to be built from stainless or aluminum?
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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Stainless and a hook up... the fit and finish all depend on the fabricator's attention to detail. I'll see if I like the lower pipe, and go from there.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Noodle & Zeus - Sorry for the delayed response guys. There are no black couplings available as of yet. I'm not sure if they are going to be available anytime soon as the volume required is extremely high for black couplings as the material comes from the UK. Sorry

MarkSAE - In my estimation it would probably be extremely difficult to do the pipes for a reasonable price here in the US. I can tell you that it was us who developed the upper IC pipe for Helix (since the JDM ones are slightly different). Helix sent us 5 pre-production pipes for us to cut and modify, and even with most of the bends there, it cost us several hundred dollars to have a fabricator make just the upper pipe alone (took 3 tries). Not saying a good fabricator can't do it for cheap, but in my estimation, the amount of U and other aluminum bends it will take to do a complete set right (not to mention the turbo outlet side) and you're probably looking at at least a $500 price tag for the pipes (assuming ~$50/hour labor rates + material). Also the silicon hoses are pretty pricey, I think the cost almost as much as the pipes themselves. That being said, there would probably be big advantages to much larger pipes on a 400+whp car, compared to even most of the aftermarket pipes on the market. And if you got a hook up on a fabricator & a mandrel bender, then that would be the way to go

Cheers,

Gary
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BTW, it'd also be a good idea to keep the number of welds down, as I'm told there's a good amount of turbulence created the more welds that are made on the pipe.
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Hey not to be an *** but what happened to Cal?
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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are these made out of SS or aluminum?
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Hey not to be an *** but what happened to Cal?
Cal is on vacation
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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are these made out of SS or aluminum?
Aluminium!
Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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gary can u e-mail me back or let us know when cal will be back thanks

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Cal is on vacation

Whew... no offense Gary, you're doing an excellent job in providing info on this product, just got worried for our old pal Cal there for a bit
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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does gruppe-s.com still have any of these pipes available
Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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AZ3ar - Aluminum - stainless ones tend to soak up more heat and of course are heavier IMO

Cal will be back monday hopefully. I wish he was back sooner as I'm doing 3 people's jobs right now.

fareastkorean - Currently only the blue ones left in stock, our next shipment will be in 2-3 weeks.

Thanks!!

Gary
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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BUMP! Got the Blue and Black IC pipe kits available for immediate shipping!

Thanks

Cal



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