ToxicFabs New Stock Replacement Manifold!!!
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Guess I didn't give you much of a chance. Suppose that was partly timing on when I wanted to purchase a manifold. I am definitely looking forward to seeing how yours performs on a dyno that doesn't skew the rpm values.
Ok, none taken... Most-Wanted not trying to be a d!ck here either, but how much is a ported & coated stock manifold?
How much is this ToxicFab tubular?
Without any results, the price and how it looks is what we can only justify the means at this time. I'm waiting on a dyno sheet. If it gains 20HP, but costs 500 more... that's not much of an ROI. I'm purely speculating here as I keep saying, some dyno results will help. I don't disagree that the unit is very nice and high quality. I guess if it makes you feel good about your car, spend what you want on it (as I see in your thread you bought one...), but some of us are about the performance gains it offers.
Again, great product, I think the welds and fab work is top notch. I personally would need to see some power results of a back to back test to make a decision at this point. It's sold so far for the look and quality.
In for dyno comparisons.
How much is this ToxicFab tubular?
Without any results, the price and how it looks is what we can only justify the means at this time. I'm waiting on a dyno sheet. If it gains 20HP, but costs 500 more... that's not much of an ROI. I'm purely speculating here as I keep saying, some dyno results will help. I don't disagree that the unit is very nice and high quality. I guess if it makes you feel good about your car, spend what you want on it (as I see in your thread you bought one...), but some of us are about the performance gains it offers.
Again, great product, I think the welds and fab work is top notch. I personally would need to see some power results of a back to back test to make a decision at this point. It's sold so far for the look and quality.
In for dyno comparisons.
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There is one dyno sheet already:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/we...ml#post8530521
RPM scaling is messed up though.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/we...ml#post8530521
RPM scaling is messed up though.
There is one dyno sheet already:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/we...ml#post8530521
RPM scaling is messed up though.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/we...ml#post8530521
RPM scaling is messed up though.
Thanks
Definitely interested in a raw manifold.
My one concern is, and Im not sure if its a valid concern lol, but right now the way my setup is with the stock ported exhaust manifold and map o2 dump, my boost holds perfectly It spikes to 39 and falls off to like 37.8 by redline I believe the exact numbers were.
Owing to the fact that this tubular manifold moves more air, would I have to worry that trying to cram more air into my Blacks (ported) hotside and then o2 housing would begin to create boost creep?
I guess Im sort of getting at a bottlenecking type effect, where the greater volume of air trying to move thru the larger tubular manifold (versus the ported stocker), will the o2 housing or hot side present a restriction for the extra air moved by the manifold? Or is it the exact opposite?
My one concern is, and Im not sure if its a valid concern lol, but right now the way my setup is with the stock ported exhaust manifold and map o2 dump, my boost holds perfectly It spikes to 39 and falls off to like 37.8 by redline I believe the exact numbers were.
Owing to the fact that this tubular manifold moves more air, would I have to worry that trying to cram more air into my Blacks (ported) hotside and then o2 housing would begin to create boost creep?
I guess Im sort of getting at a bottlenecking type effect, where the greater volume of air trying to move thru the larger tubular manifold (versus the ported stocker), will the o2 housing or hot side present a restriction for the extra air moved by the manifold? Or is it the exact opposite?
here is a better pic of the graph. scailing is off i know. so no need to bring it up. the gain is still there over the stock manifold. if you dont agree with it then dont post. and dont start a **** talking storm... to the people who understand the scailing and wanted to see the better graph picture here it is.
thanks, Collin
thanks, Collin
